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Post by bubbadebubba on Feb 5, 2008 17:02:47 GMT -4
anything you wanna feud about.
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Post by bubbadebubba on Feb 5, 2008 17:05:36 GMT -4
Bee, I'm glad you took the time to do the research on the posts. I must say you did it faster than I thought you would. It was my intent you do the research to prove a point which I will explain later.
A few of the posts are puns, a few are mis-understood by you, but the vast majority are as you say. I get frustrated when people ignore truth; not my truth, but truth presented by actual documentation. I get frustrated when people give up their rights to vote because when you do, you affect my right to vote. And when I get frustrated I often say things that may be offensive to others. I've yet to meet anyone who has not failed in this regard, it is what makes us human. I also get frustrated when my arguments are not met with valid arguments but with innuendos and plain out statements that my facts are in error, when anyone who is not lazy can find the same information. I realize people have their own agenda and put forth their own arguments but if I'm expected to back up my arguments with documentations and proof, then I expect them to do the same.
Now to prove my point and your post proves it. I have noticed several only come into the paris thread and comment only when the commisar is getting blasted real good with actual facts. Their purpose appears to be to mis-direct the conversation away from the commisar onto some trival matter. A couple go the point of trying to show they are not committed to any cause or any candidate for commissioner, and yet the same ones make every effort to dis-credit anyone who slams the commisar and at the same time is trying to appear neutral. They also attack as we attack, and that's ok. The difference between us is that we acknowledge what we do and they don't. They refuse to recognize their own printed thoughts about the posters. You Bee, are one of these posters.
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Post by shortcircuit on Feb 5, 2008 22:29:20 GMT -4
It's okay for them to attack and criticize us, but for some reason we can't say anything bad about them. I see your point bubba.
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Post by queenbee on Feb 6, 2008 11:39:00 GMT -4
I am one of which, posters?
The one who doesn't acknowledge what she does?
The one that hides behind a pretend name? Everyone on here knows who I am.
Distracted the conversation with a trivial matter?
I haven't discredited anyone.
The one that runs in says something bad to another poster then logs out?
Sorry but you have the wrong girl. I have acknowledged what I do, I have posted on both sides of the issues. There are 2 sides to every story. I have not sided completely with one side or the other because I am not a stupid person. I have presented facts that I have personal knowledge of.
I don't believe I have ever blasted you with a bad name, called you anything.
The reason I don't post in politics is because of the childish actions that go on. Several people that used to post there have stopped voicing their opinion if it differs with someone elses because of the childish games and personal attacks.
You asked me to show you the facts and I did. You asked me to show you where you had posted bad remarks to other posters and I did.
You got upset with constructive criticism. If you would re-read the post and not take it as personal, you will see that I was trying to assist you in your credibility.
Let me put it like this: If an educated person tells me NOT to do something and they present a valid fact, then I research that fact and find that they seemed to be knowledgeable then I will listen to them more. When I see that person doing the exact thing they have told me not to do, then I have to question their credibility.
Shorty understands what I was trying to do, it's not that hard.
Now for the personal part; you have some issue, I am not sure what it is, but you have some kind of issue with women. You also have issue with anyone who doesn't agree with you. Your personal post, not factual post, show that you are quick to attack.
I will put it like this for you to understand.
IF YOU WANT SOMEONE TO BELIEVE "truth presented by actual documentation" and if you want to be taken as a "creditable person of knowledge" then don't sink to the level of name calling. That's it. Don't wrestle with the pigs, the pig loves it and you only get muddy.
Maybe if a "male" has offered the same suggestion you would take it as intended and not a personal attack.
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Post by queenbee on Feb 6, 2008 11:47:30 GMT -4
It's okay for them to attack and criticize us, but for some reason we can't say anything bad about them. I see your point bubba. When you sink to their level then you are no better than they are. Everyone learned this in grade school. Name calling doesn't solve any issue and only makes you look as ignorant as they are. This forum has receive a reputation as a "bad place to be" and that is not true. This forum allows free speech and that is a good thing. However, this forum does not get the attention it deserves and the ability to inform the public because the topic is reduced to playground kids bullying each other. Folks are joining up now, trying to see what's what and who's not. Let's give them a good place to discuss the issues, ideas and changes they want to see, not act like children. Rise Above It. The cream always comes to the top.
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Post by bubbadebubba on Feb 6, 2008 12:59:49 GMT -4
Bee wrote:
I am one of which, posters? A-yes
The one who doesn't acknowledge what she does? A-yes
The one that hides behind a pretend name? Everyone on here knows who I am. A-Queen bee is a name?
Distracted the conversation with a trivial matter? A-yes
Sorry but you have the wrong girl. I have acknowledged what I do, I have posted on both sides of the issues. There are 2 sides to every story. I have not sided completely with one side or the other because I am not a stupid person. I have presented facts that I have personal knowledge of.
A-So u wanna be the referee? A little slip of the tongue Bee? u used the stupid word.
I don't believe I have ever blasted you with a bad name, called you anything. A-NO-nor have I call u a name.
The reason I don't post in politics is because of the childish actions that go on. Several people that used to post there have stopped voicing their opinion if it differs with someone elses because of the childish games and personal attacks.
A-You post often in politics, especially when the going gets tough against the commisar and you make an effort to distract the conversation.
You asked me to show you the facts and I did. You asked me to show you where you had posted bad remarks to other posters and I did.
A.-And my reason was the second post in this thread.
You got upset with constructive criticism. If you would re-read the post and not take it as personal, you will see that I was trying to assist you in your credibility.
A-Thanks for trying to assist in my credibility, I didn't know I had any, if I can sell it and get money to pay the high taxes here, I will. If you think I'm upset, you are mistaken. I have posted what the politics thread is, an eye gouging and ear biting experience. I can take and give without getting upset. I will admit to frustration which is not the same thing. You and anyone can say anything you want, myself included. I try to refrain from expletives and using the LIAR word. But I will not refrain expressing my thoughts and I give you the same courtesy. It's an exchange of ideas and arguments, some hot and some not. It's called politics Bee, don't take it personally. If I disagree with you, say it, and if I disagree with you, I'll say it. If I think a person is trying to distract a discussion, I will say it. That's why I created this thread. This is where this discussion belongs and not in politics.
Let me put it like this: If an educated person tells me NOT to do something and they present a valid fact, then I research that fact and find that they seemed to be knowledgeable then I will listen to them more. When I see that person doing the exact thing they have told me not to do, then I have to question their credibility.
A-I am not running for any elective office or popularity contest. And you can question my credibility, that is your right. And I have a right to question yours. so why don't you take, Ape, moonie, and some others to task?? Is it because you have an agenda??
Now for the personal part; you have some issue, I am not sure what it is, but you have some kind of issue with women. You also have issue with anyone who doesn't agree with you. Your personal post, not factual post, show that you are quick to attack.
A-The issue I have with women is I love them. My mama is a woman, my wife of over 45 years is a woman, my grandaughter, the only girl in the family, is the apple of my eye. Is it possible you have a problem with being a woman? Is it possible you have been mis-treated by a man and blame all men? If you go back and notice, I give as much he** to Ape as I do anyone, I believe he's a man. Also I give it to omikron when he comes around. I don't consider the sex in my posts, I consider the subject. You should try it.
I will put it like this for you to understand.
IF YOU WANT SOMEONE TO BELIEVE "truth presented by actual documentation" and if you want to be taken as a "creditable person of knowledge" then don't sink to the level of name calling. That's it. Don't wrestle with the pigs, the pig loves it and you only get muddy.
A-eye gouging and ear biting is the same as wrestling with pigs Bee. They are both politics.
Maybe if a "male" has offered the same suggestion you would take it as intended and not a personal attack.
A- I don't take it as a personal attack. If you read my posts with logic, you will see that. And I hope you don't consider this a personal attack. You express yourself and I will express myself. My posts are sharp in words, I know this and that is my intent. It is not meant as anything personal, it is to show there is no waffling in my mind. If you take it personally, I apologize, not for the way I've said it, but that you have taken it that way. I only post in the political section and it's probably not a good place to be for sensitive people.
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Post by queenbee on Feb 6, 2008 13:59:10 GMT -4
I used the stupid word in reference to myself, not towards anyone else, I stated "I am not stupid".
"A stupid blond wondering around in Home Depot and John Wayne slapping a woman" these are your 2 references to women. Sounds like love to me.
A: Thanks for trying to assist in my credibility, I didn't know I had any.
Evidently then, you don't. If you don't see any need for improvement in your post, then carry on, I see no need to read even parts of your post anymore. For all I know they are not credible, just "frustrated" rantings. A place for "an eye gouging and ear biting experience". A repeating over and over of what you have posted before.
As for Ape, Moonie and others, I didn't have the hope for them that I had for you. I look at them as making you be able to back up what you are postings, test you on the subjects. I apologize for trying to read more into you then there actually is.
In reading your reply to my post, I have proven my point.
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Post by queenbee on Feb 6, 2008 14:23:10 GMT -4
So you don't want anyone distracting and disproving your point in the Lamar topic where it might be read, you want them to do it here?
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Post by queenbee on Feb 6, 2008 15:22:17 GMT -4
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Post by bb on Feb 6, 2008 19:13:39 GMT -4
bee, you have pm
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Post by coosa on Feb 7, 2008 16:00:31 GMT -4
I like the marshal's feuding forum better.
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Post by bubbadebubba on Feb 7, 2008 16:39:23 GMT -4
So you don't want anyone distracting and disproving your point in the Lamar topic where it might be read, you want them to do it here? That's why I created this thread, it's not about politics. You have turned it into a man vs woman thing. You have accused me of having some kind of problem with women and from my point of view I see that you have some kind of problem with men. This is my last post here so you can have the last word, as women usually do.
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Post by queenbee on Feb 7, 2008 16:43:13 GMT -4
OK
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Post by coosa on Feb 8, 2008 16:16:24 GMT -4
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by tessa on Feb 8, 2008 17:17:53 GMT -4
Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
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