Church on Sunday

[queenbee]

Church is great.

I wished that I could manage to keep that feeling with me all week long. Guess that why I have to go on Sunday's to refill my tank, so to speak.

My son has started Sunday School and church with us and really enjoys it.

Our little church is Pentecostal and you can just feel the spirit moving through the church during song, before preaching started.

There is no hollering, yelling or stomping up and down the aisle's. Our preacher uses life experiences to teach the scripture and he put's it in plain talk.

My Sunday School teacher is wonderful. She teaches our studies and makes it basic.

I mentioned before I have my spiral bound book I take Bible notes in and will have to start taking it with me. I ran out of room in my Sunday school book.

It's so really strange that it seems that a message is speaking directly to me sometimes. Again this week it was

Matthew 5 11 "Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12 Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
NIV Version. (not my words but copied from the Bible)

We having been discussing "crying out to God" and also the trials you go through being a spiritual person. I refer to it as Jesus Boot camp. Being spiritual is not easy in this day and time. It seems that people attack you left and right for your beliefs.

We discussed briefly about well meaning people who teach the scripture but get it wrong. They teach it from their beliefs without studying it and therefore lead other people astray. Not purposely but out of not studying the scripture themselves and basing their opinions on what they have heard or learned.

We are learning to rejoice in times of distress.

Character qualities.

Basic Life Principals.

Understanding Rhemas.

It is a great class and we always run out of time. If anyone is interested I invite you to come and visit with us.

[southpaw]

who s the preacher and sunday school teacher? what is the difference between a christian and a spiritual person? sounds like a spiritual person just can't make to the the christial level. What is a rehmas? Ive never been to church much as a grown up granny took me all the time as a kid.

[nataliewood]

Bee, I might take you up on the offer. I've been looking for a new church.

[queenbee]

Preacher Robert Mizell
Sunday School Teacher Donna Mizell

The word spiritual is my choice for me, not anyone else's view placed on me.

Different types of people people hide behind the title of Christian. All sort's of people do un-Christian like things under the title of "Christian". Spiritual to just means I subscribe to a different kind of "title or description". Just like Baptist, Lutheran, Catholic, whatever, it's a title for a group of people. I have always tried to be my own person and not follow the group.

As for not making it to the Christian level, well now that's between me and God, not me and the public, is it?

And what exactly is a "Christian level"? please explain.

When I copy and paste a description of something I have been accused of plagiarism. I copy and paste because, when I describe something and I use my words they don't express what I am thinking plainly. Sometimes it is easier to copy and paste a definition so that most folks can relate to.

But you can look it up on the internet. Bill Goddard authored the work we are studying in class.

Now for a personal view; there is something in your post that is not setting right with me. I haven't grasped it yet but I will. It's seem's familiar to something I have read before.
So a friendly word of advice, PLEASE don't play games with me.

[queenbee]

No problem Nat, and they don't care what you wear (as long as it's decent) they are just glad you are coming .

The preacher was talking abut long hair on men and tat's in passing and said you can't judge a person by their outward appearance, it's what's inside that counts. I agree 100%.

[nataliewood]

Jun 9, 2008 12:49:04 GMT -4 queenbee said:

No problem Nat, and they don't care what you wear (as long as it's decent) they are just glad you are coming .

The preacher was talking abut long hair on men and tat's in passing and said you can't judge a person by their outward appearance, it's what's inside that counts. I agree 100%.

Well that's good because this medicine has made me "outgrow" all my dresses. (By the way - I like your new avatar. Might help you find a home for those stray kitties.)

[southpaw]

Jun 9, 2008 12:32:54 GMT -4 queenbee said:

Preacher Robert Mizell
Sunday School Teacher Donna Mizell

The word spiritual is my choice for me, not anyone else's view placed on me.

Different types of people people hide behind the title of Christian. All sort's of people do un-Christian like things under the title of "Christian". Spiritual to just means I subscribe to a different kind of "title or description". Just like Baptist, Lutheran, Catholic, whatever, it's a title for a group of people. I have always tried to be my own person and not follow the group.

As for not making it to the Christian level, well now that's between me and God, not me and the public, is it?

And what exactly is a "Christian level"? please explain.

When I copy and paste a description of something I have been accused of plagiarism. I copy and paste because, when I describe something and I use my words they don't express what I am thinking plainly. Sometimes it is easier to copy and paste a definition so that most folks can relate to.

But you can look it up on the internet. Bill Goddard authored the work we are studying in class.

Now for a personal view; there is something in your post that is not setting right with me. I haven't grasped it yet but I will. It's seem's familiar to something I have read before.
So a friendly word of advice, PLEASE don't play games with me.

I dint think I have ever heard of them.

Well best I can recall christian is to be christ like and religious person is a church goer and somebody that thinks they can get by on their good deeds. Now like I said I it has been a long time since I've been to church thats just what i remember I don't practice now though my daddy was a baptist and momma was a methodist. I guess I'm a little more baptist since granny was too and that is where i went most.

I hate you think I was playing games with you I was just asking because I was curious. I'll try not to be curious. You made the invite

[AskTheWiseOldMan]

Jun 9, 2008 11:53:54 GMT -4 southpaw said:

... sounds like a spiritual person just can't make to the the christial level.

Unfortunately, few Christians ever make it to the Spiritual level. Too caught-up in superstition and Dogma to grasp reality many times. And when one gets caught by logic, they seek to lash out at others (including murder and war) instead of opening their own eyes.

[queenbee]

Southpaw, curiosity is OK, questions are OK, invites are always open.
Discussions are great.
However, due to past postings made against me, I have developed a suspicious nature.

I seem to notice that your grammar keeps changing depending on what topic you are in.
I didn't fall off of that collard truck, I drove it in. As granny use to say.

However, all who use the Christian title are not Christ like, are they? That's why you have to be careful with titles.

I have been exposed to several religious services, my gr-grandfather was a holiness preacher (I never got to hear him preach), I was raised in a Baptist church in Blairsville and as a small child and later as an adult I attended Church of God. I went to a non-denominational Christian School during middle school.

Some say I am too radical in my beliefs, they don't go with the norm of a church teaching. I don't always agree with my preacher, but I respect him enough to not argue a point with him. We are all entitled to our beliefs. I like to think that I am educated enough to search out , study and discover on my own, the teachings of the Bible.

I just can't be a set in Church on Sunday person and accept what is spoon fed to me. Been there and currently rocking that idea.

I have very high expectations of the religious leaders in the community, I expect them to live, breath and walk what they are teaching me. To lead by faith and actions, not just by words.

I don't claim to have all of the answers and I always invite discussion as long as it is done in a respectable way and not in a closed mind, condemning way.

WOM, thanks for the post.

[sometimeman]

Self evident truth:::::

Christ never preached a sermon from the New Testament and never went to worship on the first day of the week.

Question:: How can we claim to be following Christ when we do this?

[southpaw]

Jun 9, 2008 14:01:20 GMT -4 AskTheWiseOldMan said:

Jun 9, 2008 11:53:54 GMT -4 southpaw said:

... sounds like a spiritual person just can't make to the the christial level.

Unfortunately, few Christians ever make it to the Spiritual level. Too caught-up in superstition and Dogma to grasp reality many times. And when one gets caught by logic, they seek to lash out at others (including murder and war) instead of opening their own eyes.

Radical man

[southpaw]

Grammar Wasn't that part of the hoopla this weekend. Dang I just go with the flow. I change my attitude when tallking about things when I cut up I cut up and act ignorant. When I'm serious I'm pretty serious.

As for the labels I wasn't usin them you was. I was just asking. Jeeesss if you don't want somebody to ask don't go advertising it.

I didn't think that I was being closed minded or condeming at all. Had I been close minded I would have let you have some of granny's bible.

As for the collard truck, I think you got more hot air than a truck load of collards.

I was just yacking and you start attacking. I'd rather play with somebody nice.

[queenbee]

Seems my suspicions were correct. Glad you took my advice to change identities and try to be a better person and start over. Unfortunately it seems to be very hard for you to do that. But that is OK.

You are my test. The person who will help me develop more patience and understanding and to keep developing a forgiving nature. The person who actually back's up my claims of the "Christian" title and how easy it is to use it for deceptions.

Peace.

[blondie]

You know bee for someone that is so sure of herself your sure are on the jumpy side. I think that you may very well be on your way to winning the Nobel peace prize with all of your hallow theories. Of course you consistently bash Christians saying that do not like up to that standard. I as do others do not feel that you are fulfilling the role of being a spiritual person. You are not walking the walk you are talking.


You are determined for me to be someone that I am not. first it was the roofers wife and now south paw. Keep trying.

[blondie]

Jun 9, 2008 19:56:20 GMT -4 sometimeman said:

Self evident truth:::::

Christ never preached a sermon from the New Testament and never went to worship on the first day of the week.

Question:: How can we claim to be following Christ when we do this?

Christ preached the sermon that is the New Testament. This is an elementary fact that most novices readily recognize.

Christ also walked and worshiped with the Lord daily as he taught us to do in the Old Testament. The Lord told us to assemble ourselves. Man selected the day to do that. Christ taught us to follow the word of the Lord so by assembling ourselves we are in fact doing what Jesus would do. Man only designated the day to assemble ourselves so that we may worship and give thanks and praise to the Lord.