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Post by sometimeman on Jun 28, 2007 22:17:16 GMT -4
Ape are you Catholic? The Great sleeper of Revelation 17 Rev.17 [1] And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great sleeper that sitteth upon many waters: [2] With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication. washingtontimes.com/national/20041115-124042-2061r.htmRoot of the problem The Rev. Donald Cozzens, author of the 2000 book "The Changing Face of the Priesthood," estimates 50 percent of all Catholic priests are homosexual. Psychotherapist Richard Sipe, a former Catholic priest who has written and spoken widely on the priesthood, says 15 percent of homosexual priests are sexually active. "Isn't the huge amounts of AIDS among the clergy a symptom of the problem?" he asked, citing a 2000 Kansas City Star estimate of the rate of AIDS deaths among priests that is at least four times that of the general population. "These are guys who are supposed to be celibate, virtually chaste and modest. www.tldm.org/news4/scandal1.htmFormer Bridgeport, Connecticut Bishop Walter Curtis covered up. Curtis testified in 1995 that the diocese deliberately shuffled pedophile priests throughout parishes to give them a “fresh start.” In addition, Bishop Curtis admitted destroying records of complaints against some priests The website Roman Catholic Faithful reports that The Philadelphia Inquirer ran a story that “detailed the fact that the Archdiocese of Philadelphia let attorneys, who worked for its insurance company, harass, intimidate, and actually file lawsuits against people who simply informed officials in the archdiocesan chancery office of instances of misbehavior by priests.” This article by Thomas Droleskey goes on to say that “the very people who should be trusted to deal with matters that pertain to the salvation of souls and the physical protection of the flock are the most untrustworthy, crafty, devious, self-serving people imaginable, concerned only about legal and financial liability, not about the objective truth” ("The hypocrisy is astounding," Thomas Droleskey). Evident mounts of payoffs in exchange for silence. U.S. News & World Report quotes a woman, dismayed at parents receiving money from Church officials in exchange for silence on abuses. She writes, “Shall it be construed that multiple families put a price on their children’s safety without taking responsibility for seeing that this never happens again to anyone else? What parent in good conscience would take money for silence, knowing that other children would be subject to abuse in the house of God?” (“Letters,” U.S. News & World Report, March 18, 2002, BC
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Post by shortcircuit on Jun 28, 2007 22:35:25 GMT -4
I wonder where Mr. Cozzens got his "estimate" from? Unless he investigated every single priest one can only assume that he is pulling numbers from his posterior. And don't even get me started on the Washington Times, they are against anything that even moderate conservatives support. I think Catholics are taking alot of unnecessary heat for the actions of a few extremists. You don't throw the whole bushel of apples out just because a couple of them are rotten do you?
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Post by karmaxtrodinair on Jun 28, 2007 23:24:52 GMT -4
Isaiah 2
12 The LORD Almighty has a day in store for all the proud and lofty, for all that is exalted (and they will be humbled),
13 for all the cedars of Lebanon, tall and lofty, and all the oaks of Bashan,
14 for all the towering mountains and all the high hills,
15 for every lofty tower and every fortified wall,
16 for every trading ship and every stately vessel.
17 The arrogance of man will be brought low and the pride of men humbled; the LORD alone will be exalted in that day,
18 and the idols will totally disappear.
19 Men will flee to caves in the rocks and to holes in the ground from dread of the LORD and the splendor of his majesty, when he rises to shake the earth.
20 In that day men will throw away to the rodents and bats their idols of silver and idols of gold, which they made to worship.
21 They will flee to caverns in the rocks and to the overhanging crags from dread of the LORD and the splendor of his majesty, when he rises to shake the earth.
22 Stop trusting in man, who has but a breath in his nostrils. Of what account is he?
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Post by summerose on Jun 30, 2007 20:23:17 GMT -4
But the Lord said unto Samuel, look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for the Lord seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the Lord looketh on the heart.
1 Samuel 16:7
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Post by manape on Jul 1, 2007 4:09:27 GMT -4
"You were bought at a price; do not become slaves of men," I Corinthians 7:23 NIV
For the record sometimeman, I believe in the union of man and woman, Adam and Eve...not Adam and Steve.
Sometimer asked, "Ape are you Catholic?"
No, sometimeman. I'm not Catholic. Thanks for asking.
I'm Baptististic in my beliefs. I believe in the priesthood of the believer. Unlike most Baptist, I don't believe you have to go to my building to be saved or to worship for that matter. The Church is 24/7. You can't put God in a box of bricks and mortar, but that is what a lot of Christians try to do.
My church is the ecclesia, a community built on Jesus, the Christ. Christ is our model and source of life. Are you a Christian, sometimer? If you are, then you are the church (the ecclesia). The church is the living, breathing, and organic collection of all believers who believe in Jesus Christ, the source of life. I joined the Church of Jesus Christ when I was 10 years old. We are his temple. The church is right here -- right now -- where we are connected...right here on the Internet.
Sometimer, there are homosexual priest who are Baptist, Protestant, Catholic or whatever religion. Don't put your trust in a man-priest. Put your trust in the High Priest.
Whether I worship God in a church house, my house, the Waffle House, the Huddle House, or by the river -- it doesn't matter. We are his temple, the living church. Denominations are religions of men; not religions of God. God has no religion, but it is OK to worship at the place of your choice. I will never condemn you for your choice.
I hope I have answered your question sometimer. I appreciate your question. May you find the answers to all you questions and may God bless you as I have been blessed. I am indeed thankful for all His blessings. Sometimeman, I am praying that you will find the peace, joy, and understanding you seek. I did take your advise and sat by the creek. I didn't catch any trout Saturday, but I worshiped by the creek and in the creek. May God bless.
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Post by summerose on Jul 8, 2007 16:21:13 GMT -4
Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
Romans 12:19
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Post by sometimeman on Jul 11, 2007 22:01:29 GMT -4
Thanks for your kind words Ape- I just got around to reading them.
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Post by summerose on Jul 14, 2007 16:25:58 GMT -4
Praise ye the Lord. Blessed is the man that feareth the Lord, that delighteth greatly in his commandments.
Psalm 112:1
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Post by sometimeman on Jul 16, 2007 16:26:19 GMT -4
This is for Honey Bee: www.google.com/search?q=Atlanta+Gay+pride&hl=en&pwst=1&start=10&sa=Nwww.youtube.com/watch?v=MUEGFttt-00"Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them." Romans 1:24-32 "The unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God. So do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revelers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the realm of God." -- I Corinthians 6:9 "If a man lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination and they shall surely be put to death." -- Leviticus 20:13
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Post by sometimeman on Jul 16, 2007 20:14:59 GMT -4
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Post by shortcircuit on Jul 16, 2007 21:40:13 GMT -4
So sometimeman, do you think that all child molesters are catholics? Do you think there are no child molesters who are Baptist, Methodist, or even atheist?
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Post by sometimeman on Jul 16, 2007 22:25:38 GMT -4
Short--I think the folks in the pews of the Catholic Church are just regular people and There are people in All denominations who are child molesters. However The Catholic "Church" is an entirely different organization. It is a "state". The "Holy See" is the secretary of it's state. Condelezza Rice has been asked to intervene on behalf of this Church/State in several sexual abuse cases. One involving the current pope because, he is "head of state" The Bank of Rome controlls a big hunk of the worlds money. Most people do not understand "concordants". They relate to Catholism as just another church.
This is one bad bugger that goes back for centurys. If you are really interested, google it. Read "Fifty Years in The Church of Rome" by Cheniquy and "Romes Responsibility For the Assination of Lincoln" by Thomas Maley Harris.
This sexual abuse is a violation of USA RICCO laws but will not be prosecuted as such because of the political influance of the "church" The current happeings are only a small part!
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Post by summerose on Jul 18, 2007 18:10:10 GMT -4
"If a man lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed an ABOMINATION and they shall surely be put to DEATH". Leviticus 20:13 Quote
That says it all!!!
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Post by shortcircuit on Jul 18, 2007 20:27:41 GMT -4
amen summerose!
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Post by sometimeman on Jul 18, 2007 21:27:19 GMT -4
Rose "B" an't going to like that. We done read this bible wrong. An't nobody going to hell no how. Cause that's what "B"'s bible said. And Lamar,.. he don't lie------It's like "B"'s bible, we jes reading him wrong. Course, I done told you bout' Two Gun Crowley, if'un ye' member and if'un ye don't, jes ye be asking that Ape feller, he knows. Course now Ape, why he knows ever thang.
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