Should DFACS drug test

[summerose]

Sad, but true Honeybee!

[manicu]

honeybee said:

DARN TOOTIN SISTER!

fa·ce·tious /fəˈsiʃəs/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[fuh-see-shuhs] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–adjective 1. not meant to be taken seriously or literally: a facetious remark.
2. amusing; humorous.
3. lacking serious intent; concerned with something nonessential, amusing, or frivolous: a facetious person.

this describes a user and begger

[honeybee]

Sorry manicu but your meaning is lost on me.

[fairydust]

When you grow up around drug addicts, and people partying all of the time.. you know what all kids go through today.. its hard to keep your head up at school when your are so tired from the crew that stayed messed up at your house the night before because they got something your parents wanted, they were sure happy and had the music so loud I couldn't sleep, thank God for my first period teacher.. I can lay my head down and she doesn't pick on me as long as Ill do my work and turn it in tomorrow and try to stay awake during the big test... those kids who keep calling me welfare trash have every reason to, look at my home life.. their parents don't mean harm.. they see it and the truth hurts worse than anything.. those kids who make fun of me don't know any better.. they may have a worse issue than mine.. I will better myself someday and make them proud of me maybe when I can be proud too. .. parents who are much more worried about getting their next high than only having a box of grits in the cabinet.. and the power getting cut off and being put into other peoples names.. when pay day comes.. it is not the bills that come first.. it is the one who can provide the drugs..
Kids don't want their parents to come to school for things because their eyes are red.. or they smell of pot alone.. and you was taught not to say anything because it will get them into trouble and you will be taken away from people who love you and taken to strangers who just want money for you being there..
Why did Mommy's friend come over messed up while mommy was gone and where was daddy? Why did he take away what was supposed to be my future prince in shinning armor and mines wedding night.. how do I tell momma or daddy without them blaming me? How do I tell anyone? I feel so gross now.. and unworthy. If I tell anyone, it will be my fault because my parents are friends with him. If I tell anyone, They will take me to someone who will not love me at all. Is this love? I am in 5th grade? Is this what love is about?
Why does mommy take me to that place with those people who ask her why I am there?
Why is that man mad at daddy because he says he owes him? Why did the cops come and take away my black and white TV? It was my birthday present. It only picked up two channels but where did they take it and why? When is daddy coming home? Why is momma not buying food with the food stamp coupons? Why? Why does she leave me at home to go and answer phone calls at granny and grandpas house because where ever daddy is, it is collect.. and we don't have a phone at home. I do not want to go over there because they aren't my real grandparents and resent me because I am not their real grand daughter. I feel this hurt when they look at me and when they do not speak when I go over there.

Its kids that don't want to say anything because they are afraid of being taken away from their parents.. and then who will be there to help momma or daddy when they are strung out? Wake them up and make sure they are OK.. tell them that someone is here and warn them when certain ones come..
Its sad when they think that they have to cuss like all the buddies do and try to "fit" in for acceptance with the crowd the drug addicted parents run with..

Its sad when a kid has to tell the parents that they want them to stop doing drugs and be like other families and be able to go to the park or go somewhere without smelling dope, or seeing the illegally bought pills popped.. the residue that eat out the parents sinus cavity's.. and just because momma or daddy isn't hungry.. doesn't mean that a kid isn't.. when will we eat? When will we over come this? Do I try this lifestyle to fit in enough for my parents to finally think about me? Want me.. want to be a part of my life forever? Do I stay here in this or do I leave and get a job so I can have a pair of shoes and pants that was not hand me downs.. Do I leave and work like other grown ups Ive seen in the world.. or do I stay home and find every reason not to work.. and blame everyone else because I don't want to work.. and when I do get a check.. I pay the power bill.. I pay for grocery's.. and I pay my rent.. don't I? Just because grand daddy and grand mommy paid momma and daddy's.. well I know they wont pay mine because grand daddy is dead and so is grand mommy.. and momma and daddy cant pay their own..

Do I leave and make life better and do all I can to not be like them.. and to try not to look back? Its easier said than done not to try to look back.. and its harder when you choose to be whatever you can better than what you've had to grown up around or in.. I cant go to college because who will take me? I do not have a car.. and mommas parts to her motor in hers is on daddy's because they cant afford to fix his.. and his is better running.. will they take me to work? how will I get there? Why wont they wake up and take me to work at least? I gave them gas money and rent money.. I am making pretty good for a 16 yr old, I should have stayed at my friends house because her momma could have taken me to work when she took my friend to school .. and Ive been tardy 3 times because of trying to get there.. why don't they want me to go to work and make money to get my own car and better myself..

Yeah, I care a heck of a lot more than trying to badger someone else's issues.. You see kids within the school system doing things they see at home or see from another who has seen things at home..

When you see people speaking out.. THEY HAVE MORE REASON AND TIME DEVOTED THAN BECAUSE THEY WANT SOMEONE ELSE BAD TO BE SHOWN.. Guilt is not something giving to another.. it is what you feel yourself.. and I have no guilt for another who may or may not teaching their children their way of life. After 5th grade, kids have seen and soaked things in and aren't stupid. They will either go with it or go completely against it.. those who go with it.. are doing it for acceptance of their own family I do believe and its all they ever knew..

I want this so kids can have a choice.. and employers who drug test will usually not hire people with illegal drugs in the system. I do not know how that will help.. but at least Manape.. it was more thought on trying to do good for the system.. I give ya credit for that.

The children deserve better.. and people have to straighten their lives up.. because of being caught.. or their cases have ran way past the dead line of all the help that dfacs can do with seeing that the receiver chooses not to help their own situation.. well.. I can only pray that children stand a better chance all together. Otherwise, the only chances they will have is what the world has to offer and God holding their hand through it all..

People who will not like this topic or understand it have their own reasons.. and I have mine..

I am a very lucky girl.. and I am blessed even tho my heart will always know where I came from and what Ive seen.. my heart aches for the people who are putting their kids through the drug addict life..
There was more than me too that had to make choices.. and I cant say that the ones who stayed within the hells of the life, that it is their fault.. Children live what they learn.. not everything is learned at home.. some is learned from others who learn things at their homes.. or from a friend who learned as well.

Peer pressure isn't the schools alone to blame.

Anyone who would want to smite me for giving a d**n.. then feel free cause that thing is a toy to others and to me..

I am not ashamed to say I am drug free and that I choose not to live that life and I do not want my kids around it either.

I am hurt that now kids have parents who not only smoke dope and ride the welfare system.. but there is meth that is popular amungst our county now.. so the hells that the children are in would stand a better chance if the drug addicts had no clutch and had to take a bigger grip at the REAL LIFE and good that can come from it.. to EARN SELF DIGNITY AND RESPECT IT.. That is what is missing in a lot of drug addicts lives.. Ive seen it.. first hand..
Have you?

[honeybee]

Without the welfare money what will the drug addicts sell to get their fix?

They are already harming their kids, and parents have even rented their kids out for sex or sold them for a fix.

There are not enough jobs for the working class educated people, who will hire an addict to work for them?

It's a mute point, there is no solution.

[someone]

Fairy Dust.....My heart goes out to you and your family. From what I have seen and heard, you are truly blessed.

[fairydust]

I am.. Thanks to God and good did come from the bad.. and it can for other children and adults,too. Its sad that we have the drug war going on but at least we can say that there are people out there who want to help and who are fighting it.. and I am thankful for that.. they might or might not catch everyone.. but the less there are, the better chances people have.

And thank you for your compassion.. God is good. He is always working with us.

I was fortunante to have my mothers parents there for me..
she was my bestest friend on earth too.. they did what they could until my grandmother passed away when I was 13.. I am thankful for that.. not everyone has someone who they can have to be there for them emotionally.. she was my teacher of many things.. the one I knew I could count on to make me smile.. so blessed even then, I was and am.. she just couldnt be there forever, and she couldnt be there every minute.. I miss her. She didnt raise momma the way she went astray.. I dont know if it was rebellion or if it what she saw from the crowd she ran with? I really dont know but I wish I could go back in my mommas life and made the difference.. but I cant do that either.. and I cant give up that there is HOPE FOR OTHER KIDS..

[summerose]

Fairydust....I am so glad that your life has turned out so well after all you had to go through as a child. I was crying as I read your story!

[mad4martinis]

It's sad, but I think that some of these kids who are in these homes will turn out just like their parents just because it's learned behavior. You start cussing, they start cussing. You smoke, they will most likely smoke, you do drugs, they will too, you ride the system, they see that & think it's a natural thing & it's okay to do.

[manicu]

BAD MORALS
would not choose to pay for drug addicts to live
i work without drugs

[someone]

Ever person, man, woman or child, who receives any type of welfare payments should be tested for drugs. No "three strike" rule. One strike will end it all.

Let me be clear, there are some people who need welfare help. But the vast majority are just plain to lazy to work (make that "sorry" to work).

[summerose]

I agree with you, someone!

[manape]

It's the children who suffer. They didn't ask to be born into dysfunctional families. I'm thankful that some like Fairydust came out of the hell her parents created. Thank God, she had others in her family who cared. Some are not so lucky. Reality is we need to help the innocent children who are trapped and the adults who want to be helped. By help I mean freedom from the addiction that affects us all, as a civilized society.

The problem is that all of us are affected by the drug addicts on our highways. One statistic I read says 1 out of 10 people on the roads are either addicted to the drug alcohol or other drug(s). I think the reason for testing adults on welfare is to help them get out of the cycle. Yes, we can call the adults lazy, won't work, or whatever. The bottom line is the problem needs to be solved and we need to help break the cycle.

Fairydust has inspired me to try to do something. I can start by trying to helping my young niece who is addicted to drugs. Children of an addicted parent need positive-adult role models. If you want to help break the cycle, be a positive influence for a young person.

[honeybee]

They should also check for alcohol and cigarettes, because if you can afford that then you can afford groceries.

[summerose]

That makes sense!