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Post by bubbadebubba on Mar 18, 2008 9:51:05 GMT -4
How many own guns??
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Post by bubbadebubba on Mar 18, 2008 9:51:39 GMT -4
A LITTLE GUN HISTORY]
> > "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do
not."
> > WAKE UP AND READ
> >
> > A LITTLE GUN HISTORY
> > I Thought you might appreciate this . . .
> > In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to
1953,
about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded
up
and exterminated.
> > ------------------------------
> > In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5
million
Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and
exterminated.
> > ------------------------------
> > Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a
total
of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were
rounded up and exterminated.
> > ------------------------------
> > China established gun control in 1935. >From 1948 to 1952, 20
million
political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and
exterminated
> > ------------------------------
> > Guatemala established gun control in 1964. >From 1964 to 1981,
100,000
Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and
exterminated.
> > ------------------------------
> > Uganda established gun control in 1970. >From 1971 to 1979, 300,000
Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and
exterminated.
> > ------------------------------
> > Cambodia established gun control in 1956. >From 1975 to 1977, one
million educated' people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up
and
exterminated.
> > -----------------------------
> > Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century
because of gun control: 56 million.
> > ------------------------------
> > It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were forced
by
new law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by their
own
government, a program costing Australian taxpayers more than $500
million
dollars. The first year results are now in:
> > List of 7 items: Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2 percent
Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent Australia-wide, armed
robberies
are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent)!
In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up 300
percent. Note, that while the law-abiding citizens turned them in, the
criminals did not, and criminals still possess their guns!
While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease in
armed robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in the
past
12 months, since criminals now are guaranteed that their prey is
unarmed.
There has also been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults of
the ELDERLY. Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public
safety has decreased, after such monumental effort, and the expense of
successfully ridding Australian society of guns. The Australian
experience
and the other historical facts above prove it.
You won't see this data on the US evening news, or hear politicians
disseminating this information. Guns in the hands of honest citizens
save
lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws adversely affect only the
law-abiding citizens.
Take note my fellow Americans, before it's too late!
The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind them
of this history lesson.
With guns, we are 'citizens'.
Without them, we are 'subjects'.
During WWII the Japanese decided not to invade America because they
knew most Americans were ARMED!
> > If you value your freedom, Please spread this anti-gun control
message to all of your friends.
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Post by queenbee on Mar 18, 2008 9:56:09 GMT -4
I DO I DO I DO
2nd questions is "How many gun's do you own?"
Several shotguns, couple of high powered rifles, several handguns, couple of 22's and some bb guns.
3rd question "Could you shoot someone?"
Yep! If I was feeling threatened and it was a last resort of self defense.
Center mass.
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Post by summerose on Mar 18, 2008 9:56:17 GMT -4
I hope that never happens in this country!
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Post by bubbadebubba on Mar 18, 2008 10:02:59 GMT -4
You got a regular arsenal there Bee.
Got your license to carry yet?
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Post by queenbee on Mar 18, 2008 10:19:25 GMT -4
Waiting and waiting and waiting. Supposed to be here soon.
Don't get me started on the Probate judges office and it's inadequacies and shortcoming and misinformation.
I am not happy, with all of the currently elected officials.
My gun's are at home, loaded and ready for intruders.
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Post by bubbadebubba on Mar 18, 2008 10:24:31 GMT -4
It takes a while to do a background check. If you were ever a Bonnie to her Clyde, it might take a while.
intruders?? in our little peaceful community?? heck, I leave my doors unlocked most of the time.
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Post by queenbee on Mar 18, 2008 10:27:54 GMT -4
Court decision on gun control is personal for 2 women Story Highlights
The nation's capital does not allow its residents to possess handguns
Supreme Court to consider if Washington's handgun ban violates individual rights
From Bill Mears
CNN
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Shelly Parker wants to know why she cannot keep a handgun in her house. As a single woman she has been threatened by neighborhood drug dealers in a city where violent crime rates are on the rise.
Elita "Lily" Habtu survived the Virginia Tech shooting and is a proponent of gun control laws.
3 of 3 "In the event that someone does get in my home, I would have no defense, except maybe throw my paper towels at them," she said. But Parker lives in the nation's capital, which does not allow its residents to possess handguns.
Elilta "Lily" Habtu thinks that is how it should be. She knows about gun violence firsthand, surviving bullets to the head and arm fired by the Virginia Tech University shooter nearly a year ago.
"There has to be tighter gun control; we can't let another Virginia Tech to happen," she said. "And we're just not doing it, we're sitting around, we're doing nothing. We let the opportunity arise for more massacres."
On Tuesday, the Supreme Court will consider whether Washington's sweeping ban on handgun ownership violates an individual's constitutional right to "keep and bear arms," setting the stage for a potentially monumental legal and social battle, just in time for the 2008 elections.
The issue is one that has polarized judges and politicians for decades: Do the Second Amendment's 27 words bestow gun ownership as an individual right, or is it a collective one -- aimed at the civic responsibilities of state militias, and therefore subject, perhaps, to strict government regulation?
"What the Supreme Court says will really set the terms of the debate on gun control for years to come," said Orin Kerr, an expert on criminal procedure at George Washington Law
The Supreme Court has generally steered clear of settling the individual-versus-collective argument. It last examined the issue in 1939 without fully delving into the broader constitutional questions.
Similar weapon-control laws could be in jeopardy, and jurisdictions such as the states of Maryland and Massachusetts and the cities of Chicago, Illinois, and San Francisco, California, filed briefs supporting the District of Columbia.
Thirty-one states along with groups like the National Rifle Association support the gun owners.
But both sides have privately expressed concern over how the justices will decide the issue, because the legal and political implications could be sweeping in scope.
After a federal appeals court in March ruled the handgun ban to be unconstitutional, city leaders urged the high court to intervene, saying refusal to do so could prove dire.
Several Washington citizens, including Parker, challenged the law, some saying they wanted to do something about being constant victims of crime.
She said her community activism earned her the anger of local drug dealers, who vandalized her property and made repeated verbal threats and taunts. After her car window was broken, she called police, who offered some friendly advice.
"I said to the police, 'I have an alarm, I have bars, I have a dog, what more am I supposed to do?" recalled Parker. "The police turned to me and said, 'Get a gun.' "
Habtu, a 23-year-old Eritrean-born woman, was in a Norris Hall classroom in April when fellow Virginia Tech student Seung-Hui Cho burst in and began shooting. He eventually killed 32 people and wounded dozens more before taking his own life. It was the nation's deadliest school shooting.
"That was one of the worst days of my life. I was injured, I had one gunshot wound in my jaw, and the bullet is still lodged one millimeter away from my brain stem," she said.
Since graduating, Habtu has devoted her time to speaking in favor of gun control, including tightening laws on Internet gun sales, and preventing loopholes that allow mentally ill people like Cho to buy weapons.
"No one here is trying to fight against your right to have a gun," she said in a soft voice. "What we want is for dangerous people not to get access to one, and today it is just too easy. We cannot keep sacrificing innocent people because you have a fear that you're not going to have your right to own a gun."
A ruling is expected in late June.
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Post by bubbadebubba on Mar 18, 2008 10:28:21 GMT -4
I got a slingshot, a bb gun, a pellet gun and a pile of rocks to throw. If I feel threatened, I got a good attack lapdog. He's a killer, would start at the fingers and chew his way up a persons arm.
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Post by queenbee on Mar 18, 2008 10:30:47 GMT -4
I leave my door unlocked most of the time, because if they want in they will get in and easier access just keeps them from tearing everything up.
However, I had better not be at home when they decide to come in uninvited, that's a whole different story.
I do know what the hold up was on the gun permint, what aggravates me is you can't get a straight answer from any of them about the proess and the steps it has to go through. I have received 3 different stories. To me that is unacceptable.
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Post by bubbadebubba on Mar 18, 2008 10:37:11 GMT -4
What we as citizens need to do is follow our rights guaranteed by the Constitution and ignore any local laws that contradict it. But in order to do so, first we must know what it says.
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Post by bubbadebubba on Mar 18, 2008 10:39:13 GMT -4
If you are getting 3 different stories, sounds like you are talking to the commisar.
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Post by bubbadebubba on Mar 18, 2008 10:52:18 GMT -4
The State does a background check for any Felony convictions. They do a check for any immoral history. They do a check for any Psychiatric problems. Because of 911 the laws have tightened up on the check procedures for carrying concealed weapons.
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Post by queenbee on Mar 18, 2008 11:06:19 GMT -4
Yes, but I shouldn't have to come to this board to learn that, I should be able to go to the people who work for the tax-payers to find that out.
They cannot tell me step by step, It will leave Blairsville and then go here for whatever and then it will go there for whatever and then it will come back here.
They have no idea. 4 people in one office and they all give a different story.
Unacceptble.
The DA's office can tell me step by stp what happens with paperwork, Ginger at the sheriff's office can tell me step by step about paperwork and give me a time frame (which I don't expect to be accurate but in the ball park is good) and even make an attempt at helping me.
I believe that some of the employees at the courthouse need to wake up and realize they are working for us, the taxpayers, we are the ones providing their checks every week.
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Post by bb on Mar 18, 2008 15:07:54 GMT -4
I have guns... more than one... yes, I know how to shoot them and yes I would be able to shoot someone if I had to do so... Do I want to? No.
As written, the constitution gives me the right to own fire arms. IMO, the hand gun ban in D.C. is in violation of the constitution.
I lock my doors... yes, if someone really wanted to break in, they would be able to do so, but I will not make it easier for them to get in. There are a lot of burglaries where the culprits go door to door. When they find one open, they go in and help themselves. If it is locked, they move on to the next one.
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