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Post by sometimeman on Aug 21, 2008 20:28:22 GMT -4
UPDATED 8-21-08 @ 5:19 PM CDT Case #08-CV-4083 This is the information I have received as of 5:28 PM EST: Papers have been filed, not yet scanned into the Pacer system. The complaint is asking for declaratory (asking the court to declare Obama is not a US citizen, a “natural born” citizen and not eligible under the qualifications of the US Constitution to run for Office of President). Also asking for injunctive relief and an emergency TRO. Further asking for EXPEDITED Discovery. We are asking that Obama provide a “ceritified copy” of the oath he took to regain his citizenship. We are asking for court orders, ordering the state department, HI department of records and other governmental agencies to turn over any and everything on Obama, all certified. Plaintiff: PHILIP J. BERG Defendant: BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA, a/k/a BARRY SOETORO, a/k/a BARRY OBAMA , a/k/a BARACK DUNHAM, a/k/a BARRY DUNHAM, THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE, THE FEDERAL ELECTION COMMISSION AND DOES 1-50 INCLUSIVE I have no additional information larrysinclair0926.com/2522.html?entryId=f7ec29e1601d8ad0e1e2a01474d2affa
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Post by soaks on Aug 22, 2008 9:29:28 GMT -4
Sounds frivolous to me, snopes.com has this to say: www.snopes.com/politics/obama/citizen.asp==snip== A few facets of this claim immediately jump out as being far-fetched: first, that a sitting U.S. Senator who has already spent a good deal of time and money securing his party's nomination for the presidency would suddenly be discovered as ineligible due to an obscure provision of U.S. law; and second, that U.S. law would essentially penalize someone who would otherwise qualify for natural-born citizenship status simply because his mother was too young. The fact is, the qualifications listed in the example quoted above are moot because they refer to someone who was born outside the United States. Since Barack Obama was born in Hawaii, they do not apply to him. The Fourteenth Amendment states that "all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States." Since Hawaii is part of the United States, even if Barack Obama's parents were both non-U.S. citizens who hadn't even set foot in the country until just before he was born, he'd still qualify as a natural-born citizen. Some have claimed that Barack Obama's Hawaiian birthplace doesn't qualify him as a natural-born citizen because Hawaii was not yet a state when he was born. This claim is wrong: Hawaii was admitted as the 50th state almost two years before Barack Obama's birth there (21 August 1959 for statehood vs. 4 August 1961 for Obama's birthdate). Some outdated versions of this item conclude by stating that "It should be demanded that Obama produce his 1961 Hawaiian birth certificate," but in fact his campaign made an image of that i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn227/Polarik/BO_Birth_Certificate.jpg document available on the Internet back in mid-2008.
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Post by sometimeman on Aug 22, 2008 12:53:46 GMT -4
Yep, Birth Certificate looks origional
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Post by soaks on Aug 23, 2008 11:15:25 GMT -4
FactCheck.org weighs in with more details: www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html Born in the U.S.A. August 21, 2008 The truth about Obama's birth certificate.
Summary In June, the Obama campaign released a digitally scanned image of his birth certificate to quell speculative charges that he might not be a natural-born citizen. But the image prompted more blog-based skepticism about the document's authenticity. And recently, author Jerome Corsi, whose book attacks Obama, said in a TV interview that the birth certificate the campaign has is "fake."
We beg to differ. FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as "supporting documents" to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said.
Analysis Since we first wrote about Obama's birth certificate on June 16, speculation on his citizenship has continued apace. Some claim that Obama posted a fake birth certificate to his Web page. That charge leaped from the blogosphere to the mainstream media earlier this week when Jerome Corsi, author of a book attacking Obama, repeated the claim in an Aug. 15 interview with Steve Doocy on Fox News. ==snip==
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Post by sometimeman on Aug 23, 2008 13:37:07 GMT -4
You Love Obama?
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Post by soaks on Aug 23, 2008 16:13:40 GMT -4
Not sure how that relates to getting the facts straight.
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Post by sometimeman on Aug 23, 2008 16:36:13 GMT -4
Me either. I don't love him. I love Ron Paul
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Post by sometimeman on Aug 23, 2008 16:45:50 GMT -4
WHAT ABOUT THIS: BOMBSHELL: Barack Obama Is Not a US Citizen, Not Eligible to be US President.
Birth Certificate Found in Kenya. Citizen of Kenya and Indonesia. Hawaiian Certificate Forged. Republicans Can Hardly Wait for Dems to Take Obama Bait Attorney Phil Berg on Federal Suit to Stop Obama, CoastToCoast AM Aug 23rd ca. 1 AM Eastern, plus Aug. 23rd, 2:00 - 2:30 p.m. EST World Crisis Radio with Webster Tarpley, www.gcnlive.com (and On Demand for the week following at gcnlive.com/Programs/WorldCrisisRadio/On_Demand.html ). On Aug. 21st attorney Philip J. Berg requested an injunction in Federal Court against the nomination of Barack Obama, citing evidence that candidate Barack Obama is not a US citizen, and "the obvious problems that will occur when the Republican Party raises these issues after Obama is nominated." See Berg's website, www.ObamaCrimes.com . Berg argues that Barack Obama was born in Kenya in 1961 to an American woman, Stanley Ann Dunham, and a Kenyan man, Barack Hussein Obama Senior, as reportedly shown by a birth certificate from Mombasa Maternity Hospital. According to the law at that time, a parent could pass US citizenship on to a child born abroad if the parent was at least 19 years old. Obama's mother was only 18. No hospital birth certificate has been produced to show Obama was born in Hawaii, only a certificate of birth registry after the fact, which forensics experts have denounced as a forgery.Moreover, when Obama was six years old his mother remarried and moved with her husband to his country, Indonesia. Records indicate Obama was naturalized as an Indonesian citizen. Indonesia does not allow dual nationality, so even had he been born in Hawaii, he would have lost his citizenship then.See www.waronfreedom.org/dox/BO-NO-Citizen-BriefFacts.htm for factual background of Berg's suit. Even if Obama is able to provide a US birth certificate, a dozen more insurmountable scandals face this unelectable candidate, which the Republicans can hardly wait to unleash on him after he is nominated. 1. When Obama recently made an issue of the number of houses the McCains own, McCain shot back with much heavier artillery: Obama's friend Rezko is a convicted felon, sitting in jail. Obama is the candidate of Chicago corruption. His other cronies Auchi and Alsammare are also convicted felons who have stolen hundreds of millions from the Iraqi Provisional authority and from the government in Illinois. This has been detailed by investigative journalist Evelyn Pringle on opednews, and by Webster Tarpley in his forthcoming book, "Barack H. Obama: the Unauthorized Biography." 2. Obama has very close links to the convicted Weathermen terrorist bombers Bill Ayres and Bernardine Dohrn. He shared board memberships with Ayres on the Woods Fund and the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. This and most of the following scandals are detailed in Tarpley's "Obama – The Postmodern Coup: Making of a Manchurian Candidate," released in June. 3 Obama is very close to the racist demagogues Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Otis Moss III, Hopkins, Meeks, and Pfleger. 4 Obama has been accused in Federal Court of using crack cocaine by Larry Sinclair, along with gay sex. The Obama camp retaliated by arresting Sinclair in an enemies list operation by Beau Biden, son of veep candidate Joe Biden.
5. The mysterious deaths of black gays in and around Wright's Church: Donald Young, Nate Spencer, Larry Bland could be linked to Obama.6. Obama's relations to Chechen Terrorism through Ilyas Achmadov. 7. His relations to CIA-controlled Palestinian factions Khalidi and Abu Nimah. 8. The mysterious deaths of key Clinton delegates and floor leaders just before the convention: Bill Gwatney and Tubbs Jones. 9. The alleged Michelle Obama Hate Whitey tape. 10. Then of course there is the problem that Obama is a very weak candidate as regards appeal across the spectrum. In the primaries Obama was not able to carry any of the big Blue states that a Democrat has to win in the electoral college for the general election. Obama is not able to appeal to the electorate on the issues, only on his personality. His attempt to appear populist fails since he is in fact the puppet of the right-wing Chicago School and revanchist Brzezinski faction. Instead of offering what the great majority of Americans want, peace abroad and fixing the economy at home, he will deliver increased austerity. The war in Georgia shows that the post-9/11 era has now ended with a new cold war against Russia, inspired by Obama's guru Brzezinski. As Tarpley points out, Obama has never won a real election contest; his way has always been smoothed by engineered scandals. But this time the scandals are set to go the other way. The Democrat National Committee has to be certified insane if they nominate Obama. There is no way he can beat "war hero" McCain with a ton of dirty laundry like this around his neck. And even that pales beside the blamage, the loss of face for the Democrats if they nominate a candidate who is not even a US citizen, thus giving the election by default to the Republicans. That might be the final blow to what is left of the two-party system. #30# Tarpley's publisher, Progressive Press, is offering a free PDF file of Obama: The Postmodern Coup to all bloggers and book reviewers - especially before the nomination next week! Contact info@progressivepress.com
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Post by redredwine on Aug 23, 2008 18:17:52 GMT -4
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Post by sometimeman on Aug 23, 2008 21:28:04 GMT -4
Yes, They say, Don't vote for Obama---America is in deep do do.
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Post by soaks on Aug 24, 2008 0:16:07 GMT -4
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Post by ana on Aug 24, 2008 11:12:39 GMT -4
Yes, They say, Don't vote for Obama---America is in deep do do. LOL
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Post by sometimeman on Sept 5, 2008 21:47:40 GMT -4
Berg v. Obama Update -- Friday, September 5
Obama, DNC Served Yesterday Afternoon
Illinois Sen. Barack Obama was served with papers yesterday connected with the lawsuit filed more than two weeks ago in federal court in Philadelphia questioning his constitutional eligibility for the American presidency. Service was made at his Washington, D.C. Senate office at approximately 1:00 p.m.
From a press release provided by filing attorney Philip Berg and available on his Web site:
Philip J. Berg, Esquire, the Attorney who filed suit against Barack H. Obama challenging Senator Obama’s eligibility to serve as President of the United States, has received confirmation from his Process Service Company that the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and Senator Barack Obama were served today, September 4, 2008, with the legal documents pertaining to Berg vs. Obama, Civil Action No. 08-cv-4083.
The DNC was served at 12:00 p.m. and Senator Obama was served at 1:00 p.m. The U.S. Attorney’s Office accepted service on behalf of the Federal Elections Committee (FEC) on or about August 22, 2008.
A telephone call to Obama's Senate office in Washington, D.C. yielded no official comment, as his staffer maintained that she was "not familiar with any legal action" and, even though I mentioned that service was made in D.C. to that office, it was "probably a campaign-related issue."
The subsequent call to the senator's campaign headquarters, however, yielded the same result but in a more entertaining fashion.
"That's very interesting," said a campaign official who declined to provide a name and admitted that this was the first he had heard of Berg's lawsuit. He asked whether anything about the civil action had appeared in the newspapers, and when told that the story had appeared in the Washington Times, he laughed.
"Has the story appeared in the New York Times? How about the Washington Post? Or the Los Angeles Times? The Chicago Tribune?" he asked. "Those are all more trustworthy papers than the Washington Times. When the story appears there, then we might have something to say about it."
"If Sen. Obama were ineligible to run for president," he said, "I think we would have heard about it by now."
Berg, over the phone, mentioned that he has received phone calls and advice from dozens of lawyers across the country, and was currently working on preparing a motion for expedited discovery to be filed before the next conference with Judge Surrick. While he was unable to provide a copy of the affidavit of service--as soon as I get a copy, it will be posted here--he was more than happy to offer his perspective on the predictable response I received from Obama's senate office and campaign headquarters.
"They know about it," he said, noting that the story has catapulted across the Internet and radiowaves, citing 7.9 million hits on his Web site and mentioning that he is booked for a pair of radio interviews this evening, and will be sitting with a newspaper photographer for another story to appear in the [Norristown, PA] Times-Herald. "Too many times, a lawsuit can be filed and nobody knows about it. This time, the political people must know for sure."
"The silence is proving me right," he said, wondering why no doctor or nurse has come forward to claim the inevitable publicity which would accompany an admission that they were in attendance for the Illinois senator's birth. "I think it's an insult to the American public and even more so to his campaign supporters who have worked so hard and donated so much money. All they're doing is prolonging the agony. If I'm right and they stay quiet, they could sit on it for 60 days, get elected, and the only way out would be impeachment by this do-nothing Congress."
"What does that do for America?" He asked. "This deserves a comment one way or another."
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