Post by sometimeman on Dec 4, 2007 20:54:06 GMT -4
Pastor John Hagee
This man has a huge Church in Texas with thousands of folks attending.He takes trips to Israel and repeats lies.
Unsuspecting people are taken in.
Jack my neighbor and his wife Georgia are among his victims.
If the Apostle Paul is correct John Hagee is a Liar. If John Hagee is correct the New Testament in false and The Apostle Paul is a liar.
I buggered the e-mail addresses and put in Sometimeman other wise it's all origional.
Read; enjoy, comprehend and understand my e-mails.
Please post a correction if I am in error.
Miss Georgia.
You know I sent Pastor John Hagee the e-mail below and I also copied you on it. Well I got a reply. So I thought it only right to share it with you. His reply is included below this e-mail.
He didn't really answer the question which was;
Did God's promise apply to Abraham's descendants [good and bad alike] all of them
-or- was
God's promise limited to one single seed and that being Christ and those that followed him?
Anyway both e-mails are below. You can read them both. I know what I think. I agree with what the Apostle Paul wrote to the Galatians . I also think Hagee wants money!
--------------sometimeman
from Sometimeman <sometime@AOL.com>
to Pastor Hagee@AOL.COM
cc JACK <s0sc7@AOL.net>,
date Nov 7, 2007 4:02 PM
subject Israel
mailed-by gmail.com
Hello Pastor Hagee.
I have heard your preaching on Israel. I am not sure I understand.
When I was a boy in school, I remember learning somethings about language, though I must admit not much. I wasn't much of a scholar!
Though I remember diagramming sentences with the subject, nouns, verbs and so on. And word tenses; past, present, future as well as whether they were singular or plural.
Now what I seek your help with is, the Apostle Paul's understanding of the promise God made to Abraham. When he wrote in Galatians: 3:16
" Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ"
Is Paul here saying that the promise applies to the singular and not the plural. And thus, if the Ashkenazi Jews are not Christs' then they are not the seed of Abraham and have no part in the promise, irregardless of their genealogy?
Is Paul saying that in order for the promise made to Abraham to be ours that it doesn't matter if we are Jew or Greek, bond or free, that if we belong to Christ, then we are heirs to the promise?
Thank you in advance for your reply and you can just reply to this e-mail address.
Thanks -----------------------------Sometimeman
HERE'S Hagee's REPLY
Abraham's Seed
John Hagee Ministries to me
show details 11:42 AM (2 hours ago)
Reply
November 17, 2007
Dear sometimeman,
On behalf of John Hagee Ministries, we appreciate the support and confidence you have in Pastor Hagee’s teachings.
Our staff at John Hagee Ministries reviewed your inquiry requesting additional explanation concerning a sermon you heard on TV (radio). You make reference to Pastor’s comments about “God’s promise to Abraham and his seed”. You request additional information regarding Pastor’s explanation.
Because of the tremendous responsibility that has been laid unto the hands of our Shepherd and staff, it has become difficult to use ministry resources to further explain the teachings that Pastor Hagee is presenting DAILY. Please keep in mind that our resources are limited and need to be directed to our ‘mission goal’, which is TO REACH THE LOST.
Please be advised that written transcripts of Pastor Hagee’s sermons are not available for distribution. The teaching tapes are available and can be ordered by calling 1-800-854-9899.
Remember God’s word says, “Delight yourself in the Lord and He will grant you the desires of your heart. Commit your way to the Lord and He will bring it to pass”. [Psalm 27:4]. We pray that God will fill you with His peace and joy, for “the joy of the Lord is our strength”. [ Nehemiah 8:10].
God bless you.
Sincerely,
Edward Martinez
John Hagee Ministries
This man has a huge Church in Texas with thousands of folks attending.He takes trips to Israel and repeats lies.
Unsuspecting people are taken in.
Jack my neighbor and his wife Georgia are among his victims.
If the Apostle Paul is correct John Hagee is a Liar. If John Hagee is correct the New Testament in false and The Apostle Paul is a liar.
I buggered the e-mail addresses and put in Sometimeman other wise it's all origional.
Read; enjoy, comprehend and understand my e-mails.
Please post a correction if I am in error.
Miss Georgia.
You know I sent Pastor John Hagee the e-mail below and I also copied you on it. Well I got a reply. So I thought it only right to share it with you. His reply is included below this e-mail.
He didn't really answer the question which was;
Did God's promise apply to Abraham's descendants [good and bad alike] all of them
-or- was
God's promise limited to one single seed and that being Christ and those that followed him?
Anyway both e-mails are below. You can read them both. I know what I think. I agree with what the Apostle Paul wrote to the Galatians . I also think Hagee wants money!
--------------sometimeman
from Sometimeman <sometime@AOL.com>
to Pastor Hagee@AOL.COM
cc JACK <s0sc7@AOL.net>,
date Nov 7, 2007 4:02 PM
subject Israel
mailed-by gmail.com
Hello Pastor Hagee.
I have heard your preaching on Israel. I am not sure I understand.
When I was a boy in school, I remember learning somethings about language, though I must admit not much. I wasn't much of a scholar!
Though I remember diagramming sentences with the subject, nouns, verbs and so on. And word tenses; past, present, future as well as whether they were singular or plural.
Now what I seek your help with is, the Apostle Paul's understanding of the promise God made to Abraham. When he wrote in Galatians: 3:16
" Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ"
Is Paul here saying that the promise applies to the singular and not the plural. And thus, if the Ashkenazi Jews are not Christs' then they are not the seed of Abraham and have no part in the promise, irregardless of their genealogy?
Is Paul saying that in order for the promise made to Abraham to be ours that it doesn't matter if we are Jew or Greek, bond or free, that if we belong to Christ, then we are heirs to the promise?
Thank you in advance for your reply and you can just reply to this e-mail address.
Thanks -----------------------------Sometimeman
HERE'S Hagee's REPLY
Abraham's Seed
John Hagee Ministries to me
show details 11:42 AM (2 hours ago)
Reply
November 17, 2007
Dear sometimeman,
On behalf of John Hagee Ministries, we appreciate the support and confidence you have in Pastor Hagee’s teachings.
Our staff at John Hagee Ministries reviewed your inquiry requesting additional explanation concerning a sermon you heard on TV (radio). You make reference to Pastor’s comments about “God’s promise to Abraham and his seed”. You request additional information regarding Pastor’s explanation.
Because of the tremendous responsibility that has been laid unto the hands of our Shepherd and staff, it has become difficult to use ministry resources to further explain the teachings that Pastor Hagee is presenting DAILY. Please keep in mind that our resources are limited and need to be directed to our ‘mission goal’, which is TO REACH THE LOST.
Please be advised that written transcripts of Pastor Hagee’s sermons are not available for distribution. The teaching tapes are available and can be ordered by calling 1-800-854-9899.
Remember God’s word says, “Delight yourself in the Lord and He will grant you the desires of your heart. Commit your way to the Lord and He will bring it to pass”. [Psalm 27:4]. We pray that God will fill you with His peace and joy, for “the joy of the Lord is our strength”. [ Nehemiah 8:10].
God bless you.
Sincerely,
Edward Martinez
John Hagee Ministries