AskTheWiseOldMan
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"Justice denied to one citizen is justice denied to society as whole"
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Post by AskTheWiseOldMan on Aug 4, 2007 21:25:23 GMT -4
Just curious...
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Post by summerose on Aug 4, 2007 21:40:44 GMT -4
Nope, people are human and make mistakes and machines are not infallible either.
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Post by shortcircuit on Aug 4, 2007 21:57:25 GMT -4
I vote no.
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Post by sometimeman on Aug 4, 2007 22:25:38 GMT -4
Santa lives at the North Poll, did ya'll now that?
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Post by eddie on Aug 6, 2007 8:53:02 GMT -4
No, they are absolutely not always counted accurately. This is not heresay or rumor. I have witnessed it with my own eyes. Further, when questioned about this, the Democrat controlled Board Of Elections adamatly refused to perform a visual or manual check of ballots. In this particulal case, (140 ballots cast, but only 138 votes counted) when this could have been done in a matter of minutes. The candidates, the voters, and most importantly all servicemen and women deserve better than this. Many soldiers have fought and many gave their lives in order to protect the right to vote. Also, many are now in Iraq doing the same for that country and its people. Yet here we are after several hundred years of voting and this type of arrogance by Union County BOE is commonplace. Our BOE in Union County needs a total remake starting with the Union County Board Of Elections Act. This is not only a poorly written document that is confusing and impossible to understand but it also gives total control to the Governing Authority, Lamar Paris (D). This Act should be replaced with one that serves and protects the wishes of the voters, not the Governing Authority. And yes, the current Act would be just as wrong if a Republican were in power. BTW, The current BOE Act went into effect in 2001. Lets see now, who took office in that same year and signed a resolution adopting this Act? Manape, Moonie, Go ahead and challenge me on this. Lets open another can of worms and see if you can defend your pal on this one.
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Post by manape on Aug 6, 2007 9:47:00 GMT -4
Eddie, you got me wrong. I don't understand why you think I would be against accurate counting of votes? I have no problem with ethical reporting, ethics in government, and ethics in information security.
Let's start a grassroots effort and getter done!
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Post by manape on Aug 6, 2007 9:55:19 GMT -4
Eddie, here is one code of ethics. Is there a code of ethics for the BOA for UC GA?
Can you post the UCBOEA, here?
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Post by oscarwho on Aug 6, 2007 9:57:35 GMT -4
Eddie and all , How many folks know about Liemar and his cronies celebrating victory and even knowing the number of votes by which Liemar won in last election hours before all the polls closed ? Same thing happened at Liemars KANGAROO COURT . LIEMAR had a prewritten victory speach inside his coat which he proudly and stupidly pulled out and read in front of the people who were allowed in LIEMARS COURT . He used a small building and many could not get inside. Any wonder why LIEMAR wants total control of ELECTION BOARD ? He wishes to remain KING PARIS .
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Post by manape on Aug 6, 2007 10:09:23 GMT -4
Eddie, you use specifics, and they are too easy to prove. Also, your statement are concise and you back them up. I have no problem with your post. I think you and Sonny are honest in your postings here. Why do you think I am your enemy?
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Post by manape on Aug 6, 2007 10:39:01 GMT -4
Hours before the poles closed? Humm, Oscar, I didn't see you at BR. Where did you get your facts? Oscar, if understand you, that was the trailer that the county had before the unnecessary courthouse was finished. You amaze me, you and your kind are against building the courthouse because we didn't need more room, and complain because you had to meet in a crowded trailer, the "portacourt". There just wasn't a bigger place at the time, if I remember correctly. Did that ever cross your mind? Someone please give Oscar a clue. Oscar if you are so smart, where are your facts to prove Lie-mar is in control of the election board? Who are the members and are some of them Republicans? Are they know to lie, too? Inquiring minds want to know how you arrived at your conclusions. Sometimeman, do you have some of that caster oil left? I gave it all to Oscar and I think it is going to take a lot more to cure his cognitive dissonance.
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Post by eddie on Aug 6, 2007 11:28:16 GMT -4
Manape, Perhaps I'm wrong about you. You are hard to figure. Your multitude of posts seem to be all over the place with contridictions. You seem to be an ardent supporter of Comm. Paris, yet even you have admitted that he lies. How can you support someone that cannot be trusted? You often have a negative comment regarding Republicans, yet claim at times to be somewhat Repbulican yourself. Now if you will be honest about it, you must admit that there are good and bad individuals in all political parties. Therefore I believe that only the person you may disagree with should be slammed and not the Party as a whole. Yes, I saw a previous post of yours including the words "disgruntled Republicans" prior to your editing of this. I am a member of the Union County Republican Party and I wish to tell you and everyone else that regardless of some counterproductive past members and the unwarranted negative propaganda about this Party and or its members that it now consists of some of the finest individuals with the best of ethics and morals that you can find anywhere. To my knowledge not one of them have a personal agenda. They only strive for what is right for all citizens. You also seem to have a big problem with sometimeman. He is absolutely correct in that the State of Ga. refuses to do anything to enforce the laws regarding local issues. I hope that you can understand now just why I'm leary of you. Also again, I hope that I am mistaken. If you truly want to "get r done" about the farce of UCBOE, good, lets get together on this and correct it. I have asked the Admin. of this board to post the UCBOE Act here and I'm sure that it will be forthcoming. Be patient. Also, there is a State Of Ga. Code of Ethics that also extends to local city and county governments. In fact, I gave a copy to Comm. Paris years ago. He may have hidden it since he couldn't change it, or can he? I'll try to get it posted here as well. One item on there that I find most ignored is something like "expose corruption wherever you find it". This is directed to all in government be it local or state. Again sometimeman is correct. One more thing, if all posters would come out of the closet and use their real name then perhaps they would be taken more seriously and we could move forward in a positive manner. Also, they would be more accurate and careful as to what they say here. All of this "he said, she said, did to, did not" and as of late some borderline foul language means little if anything. Myself, Justin Melick, Sonny Boyer, Curtis Richardson ain't skeered. BTY, they are all Republicans.
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Post by manape on Aug 6, 2007 15:15:52 GMT -4
Eddie, thank you for your opinion and I thank God we live in this great republic where we can gather on this forum and say what we want to without fear of censorship, at least for now. We can poke fun at Republicans, Democrats, Lamar, Donkeyphants, Liberals, Conservatives, Liberals, Independents, Libertarians, and Republicrats. It is not the same for China.
I guess you don't think this could happen in the USA. In China, the government continually monitors the Internet for illegal activity, just like you do as a deterrent to free speech.
There is nothing wrong with "ME" editing or removing my comments. It is wrong only if "YOU" do it.
I'm glad you defend sometimeman's freedom of speech, but I think your condemnation of the right of others to express their opinion is hypocritical and contrary to the rights of other citizens of the United States of American and this forum community. Sir, I will continue to defend our rights of freedom of speech and anonymous expression.
You, sir, have the audacity to tell me what my problems are!!! You tell me there is a spec in my eye, when their there (edited, so what?) is a beam in your eye. You don't seem to have any problem with "opinions", if they are against Lamar, no matter if they are unfounded. However, let it be contrary to your TRUTH and others will catch hell. Where is your righteous indignation then, sir?
In China, as of January 2001, sending "secret" or "reactionary" materials over the Internet became a capital crime and the liberal Democrats and even Republicans are trying to do it in this country, too. No thank you, sir. I won't post my name on the Internet. It doesn't have anything to do with being skeerd. I'm just not that stupid.
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Post by bluemoon on Aug 6, 2007 17:37:42 GMT -4
Dumb maybe, but not skeered. ;D
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Post by manape on Aug 6, 2007 18:03:43 GMT -4
Eddie, this is interesting to me. Let's take a few lines at a time. First, let me say, on this forum you have conducted yourself like the gentleman. Also, you are doing a lot for the Republican party and I salute your for that.
I'm not an ardent supporter of Paris. I don't know how you got that idea. I have no strong enthusiasm or devotion to Lamar. What I am passionate about is proof; not hearsay; not unsubstantiated statements; not innuendos. May the best candidate win. My trust is not blind...give me someone better than Lamar, more competent, and more trustworthy and I will vote for him or her. It doesn't matter what color, nationality, religion, or party...just give me a choice.
I'm not sure why you would single me out to give me your little lecture, but you did. I have no influence in this community and I wouldn't recognize you if I saw you. On this forum, I'm just one person out of over a million forums just like it. I'm just a man; nothing more; nothing less. So, why bother with me?
Assuming this is what you are referring to, above, I didn't say I agree that Lamar consistently lies. What I said was in the Union Sentinel it clearly stated $150,000 less was spent on Norman and associates. Later, he retracted that statement. I don't know where he lied, made a mistake, or had a brain fart. I can't judge him for what he said and I don't relieve the Almighty of that awesome responsibility. Furthermore, with all due respect, I don't appreciate you and Sonny giving the honest people on the tax assessor board hell during your whistle blowing fiasco, especially the Christian lady who is head of the board of assessors.
No, I don't have a negative opinions about the Republican Platform of Georgia or Republicans who are ethical and honest. I just want politicians to practice what they preach. I do have a negative opinion of a Republican mud slinger. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
If you think I am hard to figure, think of me as a customer. I am disloyal, I don't buy products just because of the brand name, and if I don't like the product due to poor quality, I will take it back or I will buy it some where else. Also, will tell all my friends not to buy it. Guess what, I can do that because I pay their salary.
I am a law abiding citizen, I work for a living, I am not a blood sucking parasite, and I pay taxes. Guess what, along with you, I pay politician's salary.
That is enough time wasted on you today. It is way past 'quitin' time. I don't know why I am even giving you my time of day, except if you really want to know my character, this is me. I make no apologies for who I am. I'm just me and someone who is an ardent supporter of freedom and the rights expressed in the Constitution of the united States of America.
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Post by sometimeman on Aug 6, 2007 21:33:03 GMT -4
Ape said, “during your whistle blowing fiasco, especially the Christian lady who is head of the board of assessors”.
Take more oil! Double the dose! It’s a building up on you Ape, I can tell it.
There was no whistle blowing fiasco. Eddie Woodliff is a decent human being. He was just brave enough to attempt to show Union County property owners the truth. Eddie, Sonny Boyer, Justin Melick and Curtis Richardson are good, salt of the earth people. Ape you are just wrong! WRONG!
Lamar did what he did on the advelorem tax on purpose. It was no accident. If you were any sort of person with an ounce of integrity you would have insisted Lamar Paris treat people fair and support the fourteenth amendment regarding equal protection under the law. Instead you attempt to trivialize every unethical, unlawful, low down, sorry thing he does! The nice Christian lady on the board of assessors will do what anyone she perceives as being in authority tells her. She is a classic example of most “citizens”. She just- don’t- know- any –better. She thinks she works for Lamar. She wants to do a good job for him! There are people like her in local governments all over Georgia. The D.A.s ,Judges and courts officials love people who will do what they are told .
Members of the Grand Jury don’t even begin to understand they have over-site of their governing officials, in their hands. The law gives them this power. Instead they behave like scared rabbits and do what ever they are told. They are the D.A.s rubber stamp and they rubber stamp what ever is presented to them. Just look at former D.A. Nifong over in North Carolina! We can’t even begin to understand that a “government of the people, for the people and by the people” includes the “Jury Box” We can only understand it to mean “the ballot box” and even that has been stolen from us! We are mindless sheeple!
You attempt to trivialize Lie-mar’s slanderous letters about Sonny You are wrong! Ape you hear me! WRONG! Sonny Boyer has more integrity in his toe nail clippings than you possess in your whole body!
Lie-mar wants the road in front of Richardson’s house and you attempt to justify his actions. You are wrong Ape! You are not good, nor honest, nor decent. Your neighbors can not count on you to support honesty. You are a professional blogger for Lie-mar!
The Towns County machine could use your blogging skills Ape. What you are doing here on this thread is revealing your character. Which is less than decent. Nifong could have used you and Norm. Nifong went down Lie-mar is going down!
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