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Post by summerose on May 17, 2008 11:00:29 GMT -4
Who is MW?
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Post by summerose on May 17, 2008 11:04:11 GMT -4
The Economy: America in January 2013 After four years of a McCain administration, the economy is stronger, Americans once again have confidence in their economic future and businesses are empowered to thrive. In 2013: The economy is growing and Americans again have confidence in their economic future. Congress has lowered taxes and passed fundamental tax reform offering a choice in how taxes are filed. The spending binge in Washington has ended. After John McCain exercises his veto pen in his first year in office, Congress has not passed an appropriations bill containing earmarks for the last three years. A top to bottom review of government and reforms yield great reductions in spending. New trade agreements have been ratified leading to substantial increases in exports. Americans who have lost jobs in the global economy are assisted by reformed unemployment insurance and worker retraining programs. Public education is much improved due to measures that lead to increased competition, higher quality teachers, a revolution in teaching methods, higher graduation rates and higher test scores. Health care is more accessible to more Americans than at any other time in history. Medicare's solvency has been extended and both parties have worked together to fix Social Security without reducing benefits to those near retirement. The United States is on its way to independence from foreign sources of oil with a cap-and- trade system spurring innovation, advancement in clean coal technology and the beginning of construction on 20 new nuclear reactors.Vote NO to Hellery! Vote NO to "O". Vote YES to McCain.. Finally something we agree on Manape.
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Post by shortcircuit on May 17, 2008 20:53:20 GMT -4
I guess Mccain would be better than Hellary or Osama Bin Babba but that ain't saying much. It's about the same as saying that Norm would be a better commissar than Liemar. The Economy: America in January 2013 After four years of a McCain administration, the economy is stronger, Americans once again have confidence in their economic future and businesses are empowered to thrive. In 2013: The economy is growing and Americans again have confidence in their economic future. Congress has lowered taxes and passed fundamental tax reform offering a choice in how taxes are filed. The spending binge in Washington has ended. After John McCain exercises his veto pen in his first year in office, Congress has not passed an appropriations bill containing earmarks for the last three years. A top to bottom review of government and reforms yield great reductions in spending. New trade agreements have been ratified leading to substantial increases in exports. Americans who have lost jobs in the global economy are assisted by reformed unemployment insurance and worker retraining programs. Public education is much improved due to measures that lead to increased competition, higher quality teachers, a revolution in teaching methods, higher graduation rates and higher test scores. Health care is more accessible to more Americans than at any other time in history. Medicare's solvency has been extended and both parties have worked together to fix Social Security without reducing benefits to those near retirement. The United States is on its way to independence from foreign sources of oil with a cap-and- trade system spurring innovation, advancement in clean coal technology and the beginning of construction on 20 new nuclear reactors. Vote NO to Hellery! Vote NO to "O". Vote YES to McCain..
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Post by sometimeman on May 25, 2008 7:49:07 GMT -4
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Post by sometimeman on May 25, 2008 21:39:11 GMT -4
No. I don't know anything about Texe?
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Post by shortcircuit on Jun 7, 2008 23:14:18 GMT -4
McCain: I'd Spy on Americans Secretly, Too Published on Wednesday, June 04, 2008.
Source: Wired If elected president, Senator John McCain would reserve the right to run his own warrantless wiretapping program against Americans, based on the theory that the president's wartime powers trump federal criminal statutes and court oversight, according to a statement released by his campaign Monday. McCain's new tack towards the Bush administration's theory of executive power comes some 10 days after a McCain surrogate stated, incorrectly it seems, that the senator wanted hearings into telecom companies' cooperation with President Bush's warrantless wiretapping program, before he'd support giving those companies retroactive legal immunity.
As first reported by Threat Level, Chuck Fish, a full-time lawyer for the McCain campaign, also said McCain wanted stricter rules on how the nation's telecoms work with U.S. spy agencies, and expected those companies to apologize for any lawbreaking before winning amnesty.
But Monday, McCain adviser Doug Holtz-Eakin, speaking for the campaign, disavowed those statements, and for the first time cast McCain's views on warrantless wiretapping as identical to Bush's.
[N]either the Administration nor the telecoms need apologize for actions that most people, except for the ACLU and the trial lawyers, understand were Constitutional and appropriate in the wake of the attacks on September 11, 2001. [...]
We do not know what lies ahead in our nation’s fight against radical Islamic extremists, but John McCain will do everything he can to protect Americans from such threats, including asking the telecoms for appropriate assistance to collect intelligence against foreign threats to the United States as authorized by Article II of the Constitution.
The Article II citation is key, since it refers to President Bush's longstanding arguments that the president has nearly unlimited powers during a time of war. The administration's analysis went so far as to say the Fourth Amendment did not apply inside the United States in the fight against terrorism, in one legal opinion from 2001.
McCain's new position plainly contradicts statements he made in a December 20, 2007 interview with the Boston Globe where he implicitly criticized Bush's five-year secret end-run around the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.
"I think that presidents have the obligation to obey and enforce laws that are passed by Congress and signed into law by the president, no matter what the situation is," McCain said.
The Globe's Charlie Savage pushed further, asking , "So is that a no, in other words, federal statute trumps inherent power in that case, warrantless surveillance?" To which McCain answered, "I don't think the president has the right to disobey any law."
McCain's embrace of extrajudicial domestic wiretapping is effectively a bounce-back from Fish's comments, made at the Computers, Freedom and Privacy conference in Connecticut last month. When liberal blogs picked up the story that McCain had moved to the left on wiretapping, the McCain campaign issued a letter insisting that he still supported unconditional immunity, as well as new rules that would expand the nation's spy powers.
The campaign's response was consistent with McCain's past positions and votes. But it riled Andrew McCarthy at the conservative National Review Online, who read the campaign's position as a disavowal of Bush's warrantless wiretapping program, and a wimpy surrender of executive power to Congress.
"What does it mean when he says Sen. McCain does not want the telecoms put into this position again?" McCarthy asked. "Is he saying that in a time of national crisis, the president should not be permitted to ask the telecoms for assistance that is arguably beyond what is prescribed in a statute?"
That's when the campaign issued the letter explaining McCain's new views of executive power, and revealing that McCain would, in certain future circumstances, rely on the same theory of executive power in wartime.
A spokesperson for McCain's camp did not respond to a request Monday for an explanation of the difference between the new policy and the December interview.
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Post by sometimeman on Jun 8, 2008 6:21:58 GMT -4
But. But, But, We have too! We have too let them so we'll be safe!
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Post by sometimeman on Jun 9, 2008 22:28:50 GMT -4
Why Would he not support legislation to secure our border?
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Post by sometimeman on Jun 10, 2008 12:53:36 GMT -4
More McCain Double Talk on Immigration ReformMCCAIN TODAY: We Can Secure Border With "Vehicle barriers, Cameras, Sensors." "All of that can be worked out and adequately so, particularly when you get outside of populated areas where you can use vehicle barriers, cameras, sensors and many other ways. It is an issue that in my view is not only not insurmountable, but it can be worked out in cooperation between state and local and government agencies." [McCain Media Availability, Phoenix (AZ), www.cnn.com/live feed, 5/5/08] * MCCAIN IN MARCH: McCain Called Arizona's "High-Tech" Virtual Fence a "Failed Effort" and a "Disgrace." The AP reported McCain "told reporters in Phoenix on Monday that not enough research has been done on the 28-mile array of radars and surveillance cameras. McCain says it is a failed effort." "It's a - it's a disgrace. It's a disgrace.they spent a huge amount of money on this quote virtual fence and it's just. I mean. I - It's so disappointing when the Americans highest, one of their highest priorities is to secure our borders, that we have a major corporation that gets a major contract and it turns into be a failed effort, but, in no way does this diminish my enthusiasm or anybody else's to get our borders secure." [CNN Live Feed (Phoenix, AZ), 3/3/08; [AP, 3/3/08]] MCCAIN TODAY: We Must Secure The Border First. "We must secure the borders and the border state governors will then certify that the borders are secure. Then we have a temporary worker program with tamper-proof biometric documents and we address the issue of people who have come here illegally." [CNN Live Feed (Phoenix, AZ), 5/5/08] February of 2007: McCain Admitted He Was Pandering to Conservatives on Border Enforcement, Saying, "I Think the Fence is Least Effective. But I'll Build the Goddamned Fence If They Want It." "A day earlier, in Milwaukee, in front of an audience of more sympathetic businessmen, McCain had been asked how debate over the immigration bill was playing politically. 'In the short term, it probably galvanizes our base,' he said. 'In the long term, if you alienate the Hispanics, you'll pay a heavy price.' Then he added, unable to help himself, 'By the way, I think the fence is least effective. But I'll build the goddamned fence if they want it.'" [Vanity Fair, February 2007] * In September of 2006, McCain Said "Enforcement First" Was "An Ineffective and Ill-Advised Approach" to Immigration Reform. "In passing this legislation, the Senate rejected the argument for an 'enforcement first' strategy that focuses on border security only, an ineffective and ill-advised approach. . . . "Congress cannot take a piecemeal approach to a national security crisis. I believe the only way to truly secure our border and protect our Nation is through the enactment of comprehensive immigration reform. As long as there is a need for workers in the United States and people are willing to cross the desert to make a better life for their families, our border will never be secure." . . . "If Congress thinks that it can continue this piecemeal approach to border security and achieve any real results for our national security, it is sadly mistaken." [Congressional Record, 9/29/06] * In May of 2006, McCain Said An Enforcement-First Approach to Immigration Reform Would Never Succeed in Stopping Illegal Immigration. "No wall, no barrier, no sensor, no barbed wire will ever stop people from trying to do what is a basic yearning of human beings all over the world, and that is to have better lives for themselves and their families." . . . "And as much as I believe in technology and as much as I think walls are important and UAVs and all that, there has never been a case in history where you have been able to stop people from doing something that has to do with their very existence. That is the way many people feel who come here." [Congressional Record, 5/16/06] * In March of 2006, McCain Said An Enforcement-Only Bill Would "Never Be Fully Enforceable Regardless of Every Conceivable Border Security Improvement We Make." "The border security provisions under the leader's bill and the Judiciary Committee's bill provide sound proposals to promote strong enforcement and should be part of any final bill. However, I do not believe the Senate should or will pass an enforcement-only bill. Our experiences with our current immigration system have proven that outdated or unrealistic laws will never be fully enforceable regardless of every conceivable border security improvement we make. Despite an increase in Border Patrol agents from 3,600 to 10,000, despite quintupling the Border Patrol budget, despite the employment of new technologies and tactics, all to enforce current immigration laws, illegal immigration drastically increased during the 1990s." [Congressional Record, 3/30/06] * 2001: McCain Opposed Federal Funding for Border Security. In 2001, Senator McCain criticized federal funding for projects that would be used by border and law enforcement agencies to increase security measures. McCain blasted the "unrequested" spending as a "further burden to the American taxpayers." McCain listed opposition to earmarks for several projects in Arizona that included a detainee facility in Prescott, a border guard service processing center in Florence, a border patrol sector headquarters in Tucson, and border patrol stations in Yuma and Douglas. [McCain Senate Press Release, 9/13/2001] * 2003: McCain Opposed $25.6 Million for Tucson Border Control Station. In 2003, Senator McCain criticized $25.6 million for construction of a U.S. Border Patrol station in Tucson, Arizona. McCain deemed the project wasteful spending because it didn't go through proper legislative channels. [Gannett, 4/10/2003]\ * 2005: McCain Opposed Funds for Digital Transition and Public Safety Fund and Tactical Infrastructure At Border. In 2005 McCain opposed "$55 million for the completion of the Tucson tactical infrastructure around the border." McCain also opposed "a provision that directs funds from the Digital Transition and Public Safety Fund that are in excess of $12 billion to be spent on, among other things, the Tucson, Arizona Border Patrol sector;" and "$30 million for Tucson, AZ Border Patrol sector for tactical infrastructure." [Congressional Record 7/14/05; Congressional Record 12/20/05]
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Post by sometimeman on Jun 10, 2008 12:53:56 GMT -4
Beer?
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Post by sometimeman on Jun 10, 2008 14:20:15 GMT -4
Vote Ron Paul.
Write Him In.
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Post by sometimeman on Jun 10, 2008 14:20:59 GMT -4
ICEHOUSE?
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Post by sometimeman on Jun 10, 2008 14:43:48 GMT -4
Additionally, while the Journal wrote that McCain once "joined liberal Sen. Edward Kennedy (D., Mass.) on the failed immigration-overhaul plan last year that would have created a pathway to citizenship for some illegal immigrants" and "was alone in the once-crowded field embracing a comprehensive immigration-overhaul package," the Journal did note that McCain now claims -- as he did during CNN's January 30 Republican presidential debate -- that he would not" vote for his own legislation if it "came to a vote in the Senate floor."" 20 Million Illegal Alien Voters By 2010
By William Gheen Have GOP Voters forgotten that just a few months ago, John McCain stood hand-in-hand with liberal icon Ted Kennedy pushing for the largest amnesty for illegal aliens in American history? While Rasmussen polling showed that Americans following the legislation very closely opposed it 3 to 1 (69% to 23%), McCain ignored the massive public outcry! The angry calls rolling into the Senate offices, including John McCain’s, were between 50 and 100 to 1 against McCain and Kennedy’s bill. We know this because we stood outside his door counting calls received by his staff and because other Senators told us the ratios they were receiving. History was made when the Capital phone system shut down, due to overload of calls from angry Americans. John McCain refused to listen to Americans and went so far as to call members of the Senate who refused to support the McKennedy Amnesty “Racists”! John McCain showed no regard for American voices and instead called those who disagreed with him petty names. Who was John McCain listening to? He was listening to the US Chamber of Commerce and the racist illegal alien support groups like La Raza (The Race) whom he openly coordinated the effort with. John McCain has illustrated in dramatic fashion that when he feels safe in his office, he couldn’t care less about what a majority of Americans think. Now, John McCain claims he is listening because he wants to be President in a few months. He says he will “Secure the Border First!” Even if you could trust John McCain, which you cannot, his border security pledge will be quickly reduced to irrelevance, if his desire for Amnesty for 20 million illegal aliens becomes a reality… Barrack Obama brags about how he worked with Senator McCain for “Comprehensive Immigration Reform” amnesty. If the GOP voters allow McCain to win the primary, they will be denying Americans any real choice against Amnesty in November. Unless an independent candidate enters the race, our choice will be between Clinton, Obama, or McCain all pushing for Amnesty from the White House, just like Bush! Some conservatives will hold their nose and vote for McCain out of fear of the Democrats, others will go third party. Many conservatives would not vote for McCain at gunpoint!The Republican Party will not be destroyed, if the McCain, Obama, Clinton Amnesty becomes a reality. Each party will race to replace American voices in their ranks, with the twenty million new voters who were recently illegal aliens. Does this surprise anyone who is knowledgeable about how American homes, jobs, tax dollars, limited health care resources, and finite seats in schools are being given to illegal aliens as well? Any border security promised by McCain will quickly fade into irrelevance beneath the political weight of America’s new race based voting block of legalized illegal aliens. What hope will Americans have for border security or immigration enforcement once this happens? The answer is clear… NONE! Seventy Seven percent of Americans oppose licenses for illegal aliens. Under the McClintObama plan, twenty million illegal aliens will be eligible for licenses within a few years. Over seventy percent of Americans oppose taxpayer benefits and welfare for illegal aliens. Under the McClintObama plan, twenty million illegal aliens will be turned into citizen voters and will be eligible for welfare and all taxpayer benefits. Over 80 percent of Americans oppose in-state tuition for illegal aliens. Under the McClintObama plan, twenty million legalized illegal aliens will qualify for in-state tuition. Under the McClintObama plan, employers will only have to worry about hiring the next twenty million illegal aliens flooding the country, in response to the Amnesty provided to the most recent wave. John McCain supports Amnesty. If you have any doubts, then ask yourself why his campaign has deployed open borders fanatic, Juan Hernandez to secure the Hispanic vote for McCain.Juan Hernandez is a dual citizen of Mexico and America. He used to work for Mexican President Vicente Fox by reaching out to and organizing illegal aliens from Mexico inside the US. Hernandez is known for his stance called, “Mexico First”. He is a regular on national television, where he flagrantly advocates amnesty and Open Borders with Mexico. Juan Hernandez is the face of the McCain’s campaign to Hispanic voters and he did a great job delivering the Hispanic vote in Florida to McCain! There are two main reasons McCain is winning the GOP Primary right now. One is the anti-illegal immigration vote is split up between Romney and Paul, who appear to be sincere in their “No Amnesty” pledges. The anti-illegal immigration vote is also splitting to Mike Huckabee, who truthfully supports Amnesty and a path to citizenship for illegal aliens, but is a very skillful liar. Huckabee is deceiving voters by mailing out endorsment cards from lone Minuteman Jim Gilchrist. The anti-illegal immigration vote is divided three ways, and the pro-amnesty vote is now collected around John McCain. The second reason McCain is winning is that many GOP voters don’t know his immigration stances, have forgotten his immigration stances, or have forgiven his immigration stances. They say, “He has changed” or “We have to stop Clinton and Obama”. John McCain has not changed or he would not have Juan Hernandez out promising Amnesty for illegal aliens. John McCain has not changed or he would not be saying, “Secure the Borders first”, without getting into the part where amnesty is then passed. John McCain has not changed because he recently stated on the national news that he would still vote for his amnesty bill or sign it into law as President! Do GOP voters really prefer to have one of their own pushing amnesty than a Democrat? I am a Republican, getting closer to independent every day, but I will say that at very least the Democrats are more honest about their pro-amnesty positions than McCain and Huckabee. What madness, lies, or misinformation would infect the mind of a GOP voter for them to support a man like John McCain, who works openly with ultra-liberal Democrats, almost changed parties to join the Democrats in 2001, and has the worst record on immigration of any of the GOP candidates?Why would anyone support a man who is so detached from reality that he told a booing crowd of Union workers that they would not pick lettuce for even $50 an hour!?!?!John McCain says he knows all about securing the border because he is from Arizona. Say what? Has anyone seen the conditions in Arizona lately, where they have declared a state of emergency and fought to pass strict state laws to enforce the immigration laws, which John McCain and his DC insiders refuse to enforce? There are good reasons why Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity, Mark Levin, Laura Ingram, Hugh Hewitt, and Michelle Malkin are heavily criticizing John McCain. There are good reasons for Ronald Reagan’s son, Michael to condemn the McCain candidacy. There are good reasons why ALIPAC, NumbersUSA, and almost every other organization in America fighting against Amnesty and illegal immigration, while supporting Border Security, are screaming NO to McCain! The principles of this nation are at stake. The value of our votes is at stake. The survival of the United States, in its current form, is at stake. We must stop the McClintObama Amnesty Plan. We must stop twenty million illegal aliens from becoming voters by 2010. We must race against time to warn every GOP voter before Super Tuesday, because we must do all we can to stop John McCain.
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Post by sometimeman on Jun 11, 2008 11:46:33 GMT -4
Thanks Bubba!
I'm looking forward to it! The Icehouse, that is.
I want to say, I hope your are wrong but what's the alternative? Frying pan? Fire?
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Post by sometimeman on Jun 11, 2008 12:01:34 GMT -4
Kerry: McCain confused, 'unbelievably out of touch'
John Kerry, who's served in the past as Obama's heavy-hitter on national security, expressed incredulity at McCain's remark this morning that the timing of troops return is "not too important."
"It is unbelievably out of touch and inconsistent with the needs of Americans and particularly the families of troops who are over there. To them it’s the most important thing in the world when they come home," he said. "It’s a policy for staying in Iraq."
Kerry and Obama aide Susan Rice also both said McCain is "confused" -- a line some in McCain's camp will surely take as a shot at the candidate's age.
"He confuses who Iran is training, he confuses what the makeup of Al Qaedais, he confuses the history going back to 682 of what has happened to Sunni and Shia," Kerry said.
Rice cited a "pattern of confusing the basic facts and reality that pertain to Iraq."
UPDATE: Asked if "confused" was a shot at McCain's age, Rice responded: "What I meant by that was very simple: That on critical factual questions that are fundamental to understanding what is going on in Iraq and the region, Senator McCain has gotten it wrong, and not just once but repeatedly."
Kerry called the suggestion it had something to do with age "unfair and a ridiculous."
"There are plenty of Senators and Congressmen in Washington, D.C., who understand the difference and don’t make the mistakes that he has made with respect to those policies," Kerry said, mentionin John Warner. "They know who the Sunni are and they know who the Shia are." See Also
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