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Post by sometimeman on Jun 12, 2008 8:02:08 GMT -4
I LOVE YOU GEORGE!They said it couldn't be done but, you did it! You pulled it off. You took us to war. One you yourself said was unwinnable. You trashed our reputation, ruined our image, through out the world. You bankrupted our nation. Erased our southern border. Ruined the world for my grandchildren I know you couldn't have did it with out the votes of ALL those Christians in the Bible Belt but, your friend Carl Rove got those for you There is lots I could say about how you couldn't talk because you stumbled with your foot in your mouth and how you saw our constitution as "Just a god dammed piece of paper" but now you listen, you did get that dam SOB who tried to kill your daddy. It cost billions of dollars and thousands of lives, left other children to grow up without a father,but now Saddam, he's dead. I love you George!
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AskTheWiseOldMan
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Post by AskTheWiseOldMan on Jun 12, 2008 13:42:59 GMT -4
Remember the Alamo! - and don't forget Pat Buchanan either.
Am I the only one old enough to remember that Pat Buchanan, taking an unpopular stand as a presidential candidate, warned us about not closing the borders before Y2K. He was right.
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Post by sometimeman on Jun 12, 2008 15:35:25 GMT -4
Com'on Bubba, get me one of them long necks. Hey!, WOM you want one?
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AskTheWiseOldMan
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Post by AskTheWiseOldMan on Jun 12, 2008 17:37:45 GMT -4
Sure Thanks!
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Post by sometimeman on Jun 14, 2008 9:21:14 GMT -4
Man! Yeh Thanks Bubba! Ya'll Ask Yourself, do you believe a man should be arrested and held without charges as long as "The Big Man" says hold 'em? (You gotta remember now the big man can be anybody even Liemore just bigger than you with more governmental authority)We'll read this and see where you stand and which candidate stands with you! www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/06/12/boumediene/index.html
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Post by sometimeman on Jun 14, 2008 9:22:35 GMT -4
Oh! Sh*t. You didn't like that did you?
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Post by shortcircuit on Jun 15, 2008 9:39:38 GMT -4
The only reason that they should have ANY rights under our law is because we detained them, and everyone regardless of whether not they are a citizen or even a terrorist should be innocent until proven guilty. We have already given our government too much power over us and they have used it against us. If we allow them to hold non-citizens without cause then it will just be a matter of time before the same thing starts happening with the rest of us. I don't totally disagree with you bubba but we need to be very careful with what our so called leaders are allowed to do.
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Post by sometimeman on Jun 15, 2008 11:12:26 GMT -4
Guys, I think it is an inalienable right, that if you are going to detain somebody you need to tell them why.
If you are at war then, to hell with rules. The only rule that matters is winning. If you have the capacity to destroy life on the planet then win!
This sh*t about turning aside from pursuing Bin laden and going into a sovereign nation and overthrowing it and capturing the leader then writing up a constitution and sitting up laws and courts and making the laws apply retroactively and then hanging the fellow for crimes against a constitution not even in existence when the crimes were committed, smacks of sh*t!
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Post by sometimeman on Jun 16, 2008 10:51:14 GMT -4
I agree 100% Bubba! The shira law of the Muslims is despicable! We are better off dead than being Islamic.
But, why the hell can't our leaders tell us the truth! My president has shifted his priority to capturing or killing Bin Laden. The intelligent communities say Bin Laden is already dead. Now some poor rascal who looks like Bin Laden will be captured and held up so my president can say, I got 'em. Kinda makes me sick
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Post by AskTheWiseOldMan on Jun 16, 2008 12:18:23 GMT -4
You don't need to go to Cuba to cite examples of this. You don't even need to go outside of the county. I know. It happened to me. And it happened to allow criminals (including two with badges and one with a sniper rifle) to not only continue their theft ring unabated, but allowed a deputy with a sniper rifle to take a free shot at me the day I was to testify against the bank officials involved. David Barrett is responsible for this.
As long as people like Barrett are allowed anywhere near a courtroom all the government can be is an enterprise infected by criminals.
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Post by sometimeman on Jun 16, 2008 12:30:13 GMT -4
I think we are all in agreement, our country is in sh*tty shape. I think the disagreement comes in perceiving John McCain to be toilet paper!
It's Ron Paul or the trash bin. Looks like we're headed for the trash.
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Post by sometimeman on Jun 17, 2008 23:39:30 GMT -4
Ok Bubba I ant mad, just disappointed I want Paul
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