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Post by bubbadebubba on Aug 18, 2008 5:09:24 GMT -4
reed said:::
""Bubba, it isn't going to do any good to say anything to APE.""
Yeah, I know. Sometimeman has told me the same thing but I figure I'm talking to a dead big Big Foot that Dyer and that Clayton county policeman had showing a picture of him in a freezer.
The reports said the DNA showed part human and part possum, so I figured that Manape was eating roadkill when he died so I kinda feel sorry for him.(sorta the same way he clings to the commisar.)
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Post by bubbadebubba on Aug 18, 2008 5:14:49 GMT -4
Ape said::::
""Granted the property value increased, but Paris didn't increase the "value of property." Clearly, Cook is out of touch with economic reality. ""
Oh but Paris DID increase property values!!! he is the # 1 reason for property value escalation in Union County.
Ape saying Paris did not increase values is the same kind of lies the commisar is giving the people.
And Cook, like all other sensible people, sees clearly where the commisar has led the County, which is HIGH taxation with low or little services.
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Post by bubbadebubba on Aug 18, 2008 5:21:37 GMT -4
""I'm collecting data to make an informed decision in Nov-08.""
No matter how much data u collect, I'm afraid your brain can't reconcile reality with the fantasy fed you by the commisar.
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Post by bubbadebubba on Aug 18, 2008 5:31:06 GMT -4
and ape said::::
""Well yea, if Cook had a realistic budget, Mr. Paris wouldn't have to raise taxes by 32 percent the first year.""
A realistic budget to Paris is an extra $1 million a year kitty pot to waste.
And using the same logic, if Mr Paris had a realistic budget in 2004, he wouldn't have had to raise taxes 40% in 2005.
MILLS----YEAR--------TAX DIGEST ---------BUDGET------%INCREASE 4.80-------2000------$502,607,678---$2,412,517----(Base Year) 5.30 ------2001-------600,923,019----3,184,892------32.00% 5.29-------2002-------625,285,783----3,307,762------3.86 5.20-------2003-------676,340,923----3,516,973----- 6.32 5.15-------2004-------719,782,973----3,706,882----- 5.40 6.65-------2005-------778,665,846----5,178,128-----39.69 5.10-------2006------1,213,368,726----6,188,180---- 19.50 5.05-------2007------1,277,947,326----6,453,634----4.29
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Post by manape on Aug 18, 2008 22:33:50 GMT -4
""I'm collecting data to make an informed decision in Nov-08."" No matter how much data u collect, I'm afraid your brain can't reconcile reality with the fantasy fed you by the commisar. My brain is very capable. Don't worry about me. Worry about the rest of the highly intelligent voters. IN NOV 08, you will understand the difference between what is real and fantasy.
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Post by bubbadebubba on Aug 20, 2008 20:21:16 GMT -4
""I will make a bargain with the Republicans. If they will stop telling lies about Democrats, I will stop telling the truth about them.""
# 1---Don't know of anyone who would make a bargain with an ape.
# 2---Don't believe any ape knows the difference between truth and lies.
# 3---Don't believe there are any donkeys or elephants in these forums.
# 4---I DO believe there are many free thinkers here; except for a few well known devotees.
# 5---In the end game, it just don't matter one twit.
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Post by manape on Aug 20, 2008 21:33:23 GMT -4
Bubba, I'm not talking about Republicans on this forum. You da man, bubba.
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Post by bubbadebubba on Aug 21, 2008 9:04:17 GMT -4
""Bubba, I'm not talking about Republicans on this forum.""
Then you must be talking about those opposed to Obama. The newly formed supporters (out of old line democrats) in the County for Obama shows liberalism is alive and well among these mountains and snatches away the unwary, the uninformed, and the blind devotees.
It's worse than kudzu and runs twice as fast.
Show me a liberal and I'll show you the ruination of this Country.
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Post by bubbadebubba on Aug 21, 2008 9:17:31 GMT -4
Jane Fonda Ted Turner Ted Kennedy Obama yomama 75% of all demo-donkeys in Congress and too many to name here. 15-20% of all repub-elepants in Congress and too many to list here.
50-70% of all donkeys who have moved into the county known as half-backs and who really put the commisar into office believing they have low taxes and that he keeps the moon from falling.
Lamar Paris with the very same way of running government as the democrats at the national level, i.e.(high taxation, more regulation, in your face government, wasteful spending on non-government entities, etc.). I'm looking for the Dime's worth of difference between Paris and the National democrats and don't even see daylight.
And then there are all the free-loaders of government who get a few crumbs from the commisar(I'm only talking about those without ethics here, if you are guilty you might squeal a little).
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Post by manape on Aug 21, 2008 22:20:43 GMT -4
""Bubba, I'm not talking about Republicans on this forum."" Then you must be talking about those opposed to Obama. The newly formed supporters (out of old line democrats) in the County for Obama shows liberalism is alive and well among these mountains and snatches away the unwary, the uninformed, and the blind devotees. Manape: No, I talking about Harold Cooks quote, as follows: In the year 2000, the last year I was in office, we collected $2,412,517 and the Mill Rate was 4.80%. The first year Paris was in office he raised the mill rate to 5.30% and he collected $3,184,892; which was a 32% increase. |
I'm still researching this one bubba, but (no pun intended) what you see above is a classic example of a Republican truth decay. What Mr. Cook (or his webmaster) said is technically correct. However, the word on the street is he forgot to mention that the jail was under funded, and taxes had to be raised to meet the obligation of the county to finish it.
As for this forum, how can you tell when extreme conservatives are saying something in jest or when they are saying something ridiculous with a hilarious though somewhat sad earnestness? When many proclaim to be on that side honestly believe the government is behind 9/11. Some complain because the county maintains their road (CR). Others complain because the county fixes their road (Sonny Old Boyer). How can you tell when they're joking about something or boldface lying?
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Post by manape on Aug 22, 2008 0:03:08 GMT -4
Jane Fonda Ted Turner Ted Kennedy Obama yomama 75% of all demo-donkeys in Congress and too many to name here. 15-20% of all repub-elepants in Congress and too many to list here. And on and on............... And the sheep go bla! Bla. Baaaaa... NO donkeys! No elephants! NO Sheep and...... NO BULLTHE INDEPENDENT AMERICAN PARTY
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Post by bubbadebubba on Aug 22, 2008 8:08:11 GMT -4
""" However, the word on the street"""
Well, if you're gonna go around looking in the gutters and crevices of streets you can find a lot about the commisar so why don't you post that data also.
I happen to believe Cook about the Jail funding. It was within budget guidelines when Paris took office and within the first year was all of a sudden over-budget several hundred thousands.
Also the Jail was a splost project and should NOT have required property tax money to complete. If indeed property tax money was used by this commisar, it confirms (although no confirmation is is needed with me) the mis-management of this commisar and his inability to function as a manager of County affairs.
The more I find out about this commisar, the more I see a slick politician who slips and slides among the voters with promises of doing wonders for the community but fails to explain where the money goes.
$17 million in splost funds, where did the money go??
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Post by bubbadebubba on Aug 22, 2008 8:29:42 GMT -4
All y'all got to complain about Cook is the Jail, and he was on time and on budget with that item until Paris took office.
And since you don't post the data, I will.
Hundreds of thousands for GPS for golf carts and a GIS package that could be had for a 1/10 of what the commisar paid.
Hundreds of thousands for over-paying for County land.
Credit cards for County Employees.
Eliminating the County Purchasing Department thereby eliminating accountability.
Broken promises of a Library addition with the present splost. where did the money go?
Broken promises of a Multi-use bldg with the present splost. where did the money go?
Giving in to special interest in order to get votes.
etc., etc., etc.
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Post by bubbadebubba on Aug 22, 2008 8:39:46 GMT -4
And the REAL reason Paris had to raise taxes in 2001 is because he paid $1 million for the Elliott property and financed it for 10 years which raised the price 1/4 of a million dollars.
With payments of over 100 hundred thousand a year, this money comes directly out of property tax, no splost funds used.
Also, the underhanded way the commisar took away the voters right to have a say in the matter by creating his Finance Corporation and never mentioning a vote on the matter.
This Finance Corporation alone is reason enough to vote Paris out of office.
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Post by bubbadebubba on Aug 22, 2008 8:58:55 GMT -4
Another thing about this Finance Corporation::
With creation of this Corporation, all duties of an elected official is passed on to the Corporation. This means the Corporation can perform buying, selling, making contracts, etc. Perform duties normally the duty of the Commissioner with the exception there is NO accountability to the tax-payers and NO duty to abide by the Laws of the State of Georgia in reporting to the people.
This my friend is Totalitarianism and most of the people either don't know or don't care.
Your commisar at work.
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