Walmart: For or Against?

[maddy]

Too bad we can't do that here.

[swissroger]

maddie, let me now how i can help ok?

so you can say the protesters against wally in bville came as fare as switzerland, looks good in the news

[texie]

I wonder if Walmart has ever been stopped once they already OWNED the land?!?! I'd like to know that. I'm just sick about them coming here.

[shortcircuit]

It looks like they are progressing fairly well, does anyone know what they are doing with the house? Evidently it isn't being torn down because they are working around it.

[maddy]

Maybe Walmart is trying to get it to be unihabitable & have the county pay for it to be taken down, instead of them paying for it.

[shortcircuit]

Hmm, I can't really see it being habitable anyway since it's right in the middle of where their parking lot will be.

[bb]

Maybe it will be the building for the gas station?

[sometimeman]

Typical incentives Wal-Mart gets

States and political hacks prostrate themselves to get Wal-Mart stores in their areas. They will forego 10 years of state income taxes, five years of property taxes, build the infrastructure (roads and power).

Why will local politicians go along?

A super center can cost $20,000,000, and the average skim is 10%. Whose family owns the land Wal-Mart builds on? You have the general contractor who hires favored subcontractors, and there is lots of room for ghost employees and service contracts. There is the always the next election. The same newspapers, that overlook Wal-Mart's predatory practices, can quickly destroy a political career.

[sometimeman]

IS THIS MAN A CROOK?


CHINESE WORKER

Base Wage $ 1.20
Annual cost $ 2,500


AMERICAN WORKER

Base Wage $14.60 = $ 30,300
F.I.C.A. $.91 = $1,800
Medicare $.18 = $363
Fed Unemployment tax $.73 = $350
State Unemployment tax $.92 = $ 800
Paid Vacation $1,680
State Income tax $1,500
Health Ins $8,000
Annual cost $ 42,000

By outsourcing the production to China, you have avoided $5,250 in taxes that pay for schools, unemployment, Social Security, Medicare and public services.

[billboemanns]

Since you asked, the answer is "No, Lamar Paris is not a crook." He's a concerned Union County citizen who felt strongly enough about this county and its direction that he ran for and won the position of Union County Sole Commissioner. The voters had so much confidence in his demonstrated abilities that they voted him to another term. And coming this November, I hope to see that we'll once again under his stewardship for the next four years.

Union County did not forgo any property taxes for Wal-Mart and they are only paying to upgrade certain infrastructure that provides the utilities this business will need and to help provide a better road and visual buffer for the folks on Wintermute Rd that runs along side the Wal-Mart property.

www.unioncountyga.gov/t10-3-07.htm
www.unioncountyga.gov/t3-12-08.htm

You keep trying to make Mr. Paris look dirty, but the only one with the grimy face is you.

[thesosbee]

Bill, I realize that you are one of Lamar's lower level shills but you will never make it into his inner circle unless you, embrace his chief spokesperson Norman H. Cooper.

The only thing dirty about the Wal-Mart deal is that Paris ran on the fact that he would never let Wal-Mart in, and he kept it out for 8 years, but now he desperately needs the tax revenue to cover the county debts that he hopes the masses will never know about. And that is why he has done a 180 on the issue. He is a flip flopper.

[billboemanns]

Shill: A shill player is a who is paid by the house and plays with the house money.
A decoy who acts as an enthusiastic customer in order to stimulate the participation of others
A shill is an associate of a person selling goods or services or a political group, who pretends no association to the seller/group and assumes the air of an enthusiastic customer.
In comedy, a person planted in the audience to assist in a gag.

None of those apply to me. I'm not paid. I'm not a secret friend. I don't have a business relationship with him. I didn't know him until I started going to county meetings. My parents know him because of their jobs, but I'm an independent mind and able to form my own opinion. And I did so based on my requests over the years for more information and his replies, to how he conducted county meetings, and the positive influences I saw him bringing to Union County.

I think his prior opposition to Wal-Mart had to do with where the Wal-Mart was going to be built rather than being against the business itself. The county, under a prior administration, wanted to use the land that became our Meeks Park as the location of the new Wal-Mart. I think he knew better than most how deeply disappointed Bill Meeks would be with that use of the land and was bitterly opposed to it because of that.

This time around, they've purchased property from a private entity still in good proximity to Hwy 515 and not far from the BARIP and Blairsville Airport. There's no sweetheart deal being provided by the county to use land that was sold to the county at a low cost for the express purpose of parks and recreation. So he's not flip-flopping. The circumstances that he was against changed, and I believe he removed his objections on that basis.

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Jun 22, 2008 15:32:08 GMT -4 billboemanns said:

I think his prior opposition to Wal-Mart had to do with where the Wal-Mart was going to be built rather than being against the business itself. The county, under a prior administration, wanted to use the land that became our Meeks Park as the location of the new Wal-Mart. I think he knew better than most how deeply disappointed Bill Meeks would be with that use of the land and was bitterly opposed to it because of that.

This time around, they've purchased property from a private entity still in good proximity to Hwy 515 and not far from the BARIP and Blairsville Airport. There's no sweetheart deal being provided by the county to use land that was sold to the county at a low cost for the express purpose of parks and recreation. So he's not flip-flopping. The circumstances that he was against changed, and I believe he removed his objections on that basis.

Then why did he tell people that he was opposed to wal mart building here AFTER he was elected to office? Sounds like flip flopping to me. Lamar Paris isn't the man you think he is. Truth of the matter is there is no way that King Lamar could stop wal mart anyway, he may think that he is all-powerful but he isn't. He simply tried to use their decision to build here to his advantage, when he found out they were coming and there was nothing he could do to stop them he jumps to the other side of the fence and uses his silver tongue to talk about how much he supports their decision.

[sometimeman]

Wal-Mart is just another opportunity for people to see Liemore as a liar.

Folks like billbeomanns are like my neighbor that caught his wife with his neighbor.
He says, "well she is a good cook and keeps a clean house so I recon it's alright"

Nothing you say to a liemore lover detracts from their like for him!
They always are able to justify their reason for continuing their favored position of Liemore.

[country]

to billboemanns:

i have an email from Lamar Paris promising that he will do anything in his power to keep wal-mart from coming to Blairsville. I voted for him last time because of that promise and one other promise. I think it's wrong for a sole commissioner to change his platform mid-term. It would be different if he changed his mind but didn't pursue it until he ran on that as a pltform change. It's really bad when you have only one commissioner and he lies about an important issue. I don't see how anyone can say that is okay.