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Post by kopycat on Mar 20, 2007 8:07:59 GMT -4
Good morning and good posting about the need for a multi-commissioner model of government in Union County.
Most people initiate change without analyzing why it’s really needed. People are naturally suspicious of proposed changes because change is presented as the “flavor of the month” mentality or “that’s the way we did it where I come from.” Change is often doomed from the start. Those trying to force change don’t take time to analyze the consequence of their actions and communicate the need and outline what results are expected. They make the mistake of assuming that it should all be obvious.
Some day we will have multi-commissioners. I think the issue here is you feel a sole commissioner does not equally represent you, but calling number 41 a dictator. We get a chuckle from that.
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Post by mad4martinis on Mar 20, 2007 9:25:53 GMT -4
Good morning and good posting about the need for a multi-commissioner model of government in Union County. Some day we will have multi-commissioners. I think the issue here is you feel a sole commissioner does not equally represent you, but calling number 41 a dictator. We get a chuckle from that. 41??? Who's "we"? I'm so confused now. When you have a tribe, you need a cheif, but you also need the indians to help to keep the tribe alive. Change is good, change is inevitable. Change happens everyday & it's not a bad thing at all. I guess if you look at the negative side of life, you'll find it. I don't have a problem with Lamar, except maybe him letting walmart come here, but there's nothing wrong with having help for a growing community, which is CHANGE!! And, it's happening. |
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Post by honeybee on Mar 20, 2007 9:50:10 GMT -4
Multi-commissioners? It will cost us more money and more paperwork and less progress.
I can't remember who or when or where it was posted, but someone said that the commission should be made up of people from her AND not from here.
I see that as the first problem, because we are all from here, because we live here, we all pay taxes here and any decisions made will be made here, for here.
People first have to get over their "them and us" mentality before we can move on as a community.
A community divided will fall. I do realize that 100 percent harmony is not acheiveable, but we first have to come together as a community, as citizens of Union County.
When and if we get the majority to accept that, then we can move forward towards progress and growth.
DANG! I surprise myself sometimes.
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Post by manape on Mar 20, 2007 12:02:25 GMT -4
HB. I tend to agree with thee.
I'm all for peace and harmony in the community. The "them and us" attitude was never a local concept. It is just something some of the "new comers" feel.
If people are nice the locals don't have a problem with them. The problem is the big shot "Miami News Paper Editor" and the ones who try to find fault in everything.
Lack of reason is not just limited to the ones who move in here. We have our share of the local nut cases. All the "Others" and students of this forum community want do is understand the reason for proposed change.
The multi-commissioner thing is something that some people seem to want because it would eliminate the dictator. I think it would only slow decision making down and wouldn't be very effective at this point, but I am willing to listen to reasonable arguments.
As for a her in the commisioner's office, one of the finest sole commissioners in GA is a lady in one of the 7 North GA counties who still have a sole commissioner. From her campaign strategy outlined on her web site, she sounds like a reasonable lady.
I happen to think our current commissioner here is doing a good job managing change in the community. This is not a popular view on this forum and I probably run the risk being called names like ape baby and cry baby, but their childish attitude doesn't impress me much. Gotta go to lunch.
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Post by manape on Mar 20, 2007 14:42:10 GMT -4
I just listened to the video on the home page. Manapes don't get out much. Thanks blairsvillecity.com. Isn't technology great!
It's been a little boring around the old forum, lately. I hope the video will give us something to talk about. Keep those threads coming. I'll be back. I gotta go scare somebody. After I do that, I need to take my ape custom to the cleaners. A manape's job is never done.
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Post by kopycat on Mar 20, 2007 15:18:21 GMT -4
M4M
There are some who refer to Lamar as a dictator. That's just too funny to a local. I'll leave you confused on the number 41. Gotta go back to work.
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Post by honeybee on Mar 20, 2007 16:13:06 GMT -4
Had to close the video it was making me sleepy.
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Post by manape on Mar 20, 2007 17:31:28 GMT -4
HB.
LOL
Did you miss the part where the dictator took his shoe off and pounded it on the podium? Get some rest and watch it again. You missed the best part.
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Post by sometimeman on Mar 20, 2007 19:27:14 GMT -4
Congratulations on te Video!-Superb Job! We need to get a 5 member commssion a soon as possible. All I heard was Lamar spending money and no mercy for the tax payers
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Post by honeybee on Mar 20, 2007 19:32:09 GMT -4
If we had a 5 member commission our money would be spent 5 times as fast.
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Post by mad4martinis on Mar 20, 2007 20:37:57 GMT -4
HB. LOL Did you miss the part where the dictator took his shoe off and pounded it on the podium? Get some rest and watch it again. You missed the best part. Are you serious??  He really did that?! I'll have to watch it again. I missed that part. It was just so monotone, I fwd through some of it. |
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Post by fairplay on Mar 20, 2007 20:48:29 GMT -4
The American Heritage Dictionary that I have gives as the first defination of :
"DICTATOR"--A ruler having absolute authority and supreme jurisdiction over the government of a state, especially one who is considered tyrannical and oppressive.---If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, etc.
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Post by mad4martinis on Mar 20, 2007 20:49:15 GMT -4
oh, you silly one Manape!! I liked the part where Lamar turned around & pulled his britches down to moon Norm! The flashes of his camera wouldn't stop!
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Post by fairplay on Mar 20, 2007 21:19:09 GMT -4
As many of you know Town's County recently had a vote on multi commissioners and Lamar went and spoke against the idea at a forum that I attended. These were my thoughts that I wrote in a letter to the editor:
To The Editor,
I attended your forum Friday (on multi commissioners) more as a curiosity, for I live in Union; but I feel that I should contribute some thoughts. Lamar Paris’s opposition to the multi man type of government (a sole commissioner) had obvious reasons for his almost “panic view” of why it should stay the same, “His job!” In my mind his argument that if Town’s couldn’t find 1 qualified man to be a sole commissioner, “How would they ever find 5?” is obvious to me. A sole Commissioner by law has to devote his full time to the job. This fact really narrows the field of candidates for several reasons; usually a drop in pay, and absolutely an increase in hours. So what do you find? A person that is not qualified for the job or someone that has a hidden agenda for wanting the job. Towns County had to remove and jail one Ordinary (sole commissioner) in the past, so it can happen. Our commissioner owned a finance company before he took office and it is still open, but I am sure he is not involved with it anymore. However, he was one of the leading land developers in the county. That makes a lot of his decisions suspect, whether he makes decisions in his favor or not. Of the four past commissioners in Union County that I have lived under, all but one increased their land holdings while they were in office. You have a multitude of talent in all fields that would be more than eager to serve the county part time when they could not devote full time. I saw several in the room last night that could handle the job and have put a lot of thought and effort (free) to try and bring the pros and cons before the public.
I was fascinated by several in the room that brought out that a sole commissioner combined the two branches, executive and legislative of government on the county level. The more I think about it, it totally eliminates the legislative branch of our county government. I’m not too sure that if that was challenged in our courts that the government by sole commissioner would stand the test. As I pointed out in the forum, our legislatures were wise enough to provide that every committee, authority, board if appointed or elected, are all multi member. The cities of Hiawassee & Young Harris both have councils. Why did the legislature provide that all of our tax money be in the control of one person?
Sonny Boyer
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Post by bluebird on Mar 21, 2007 5:59:59 GMT -4
Lamar did the same thing in Fannin County when the county was considering going to a 5 member board like what goes on in either county is any of his business. I also heard he sent county emloyees to Towns County to train the building inspectors. Thought they were busy here with handling Union County. I think he wants to be the governor of NE GA.
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He really did that?! I'll have to watch it again. I missed that part. It was just so monotone, I fwd through some of it.